Bug 522601 - No X on "VGA ION" [10de:087d]
Summary: No X on "VGA ION" [10de:087d]
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: xorg-x11-drv-nouveau
Version: 12
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ben Skeggs
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
Depends On:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2009-09-10 19:41 UTC by Niels Haase
Modified: 2018-04-11 09:03 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

Fixed In Version:
Doc Type: Bug Fix
Doc Text:
Clone Of:
Last Closed: 2010-12-05 06:26:22 UTC

Attachments (Terms of Use)
BIOS from Nvidia ION (087d) (60.50 KB, application/octet-stream)
2009-09-14 04:27 UTC, Niels Haase
no flags Details
mmiotrace from Nvidia ION 087d (6.80 MB, application/x-gzip)
2009-09-14 04:33 UTC, Niels Haase
no flags Details

Description Niels Haase 2009-09-10 19:41:05 UTC
Description of problem:
No X on nVidia ION based system

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Testday image testday-20090909-x86_64.iso

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. boot from live usb
Actual results:
No X

Expected results:

Additional info:
Start-up with KMS, at the point gdm normally shows up, the complete screen show every pixel in different colour but stays static.

Start-up with nouveau.modeset=0 will cause also X to fail

Start-up with VESA works

No switch to vty is possible with the nouveau driver. Currently I'm not able to grab the logfiles over SSH (hopefully if it's possible) atm since there are network problems. But I will try my best to deliver in addition.

Comment 1 Ben Skeggs 2009-09-10 20:05:55 UTC
Ahh, I was wondering when I'd see one of these cards in the wild :)  It should be possible for us to support it, and nv *should* probably work already.

Even if you can't get logs, it'd be *very* useful if you could grab me a VBIOS image from the card and let me know the output from nouveau with nouveau.modeset=0, in particular the numbers in brackets on the "Detected an NV50 generation card" line.

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~stuart/vbtracetool/ is the tool you need for the VBIOS image.  If you can grab that and run "make && ./vbtracetool -w 2>vbios.rom"

That will hopefully be enough to fix modesetting, to get acceleration I'll also need a trace of the NVIDIA binary driver initialising the card.  http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/MmioTrace has details on how to get this, I'm just not 100% certain there's a binary driver available that'll work with the X server in the latest Fedora code.  I'm testing that myself today, so I'll get back to you on that unless you beat me to it!

Comment 2 Niels Haase 2009-09-14 04:27:29 UTC
Created attachment 360870 [details]
BIOS from Nvidia ION (087d)

Comment 3 Niels Haase 2009-09-14 04:33:40 UTC
Created attachment 360871 [details]
mmiotrace from Nvidia ION 087d

archive contains:

mmiotrace (without any lost events) from X start-up with nvidia blob (x86_64 190.32 Beta) > mydump.txt
dmesg from boot until successfully end of mmiotrace > dmesg.txt
lspci -vvv output > lspci.txt

Comment 4 Ben Skeggs 2009-09-15 22:35:54 UTC
Thanks for the traces.  The card's not actually what I thought it was, but it's a known problematic card in any case.

With the latest releases of kernel, libdrm and xorg-x11-drv-nouveau you should be able to make it into X.  However, acceleration will be disabled, but it's better than a hang.

However, there's been some updates to the kernel which may have fixed the acceleration issue too, I just don't have access to the hardware to be able to test it.  So, if you update, could you post your dmesg output here so I'm able to see if the engine hangs while trying to draw console messages?  The slight catch here is that you can't use 2.6.31-14.fc12 as it has console acceleration temporarily disabled.  The version prior, or after will be fine however.


Comment 5 Adam Williamson 2009-09-17 20:24:54 UTC
arxs: of course, if you can't install rawhide (I don't recall if you have a rawhide install or not), you can use a nightly CD - http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ .

Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team

Comment 6 Matěj Cepl 2009-11-05 17:16:00 UTC
Since this bugzilla report was filed, there have been several major updates in various components of the Xorg system, which may have resolved this issue. Users who have experienced this problem are encouraged to upgrade their system to the latest version of their packages (at least F12Beta, but even better if the very latest versions).

Please, if you experience this problem on the up-to-date system, let us now in the comment for this bug, or whether the upgraded system works for you.

If you won't be able to reply in one month, I will have to close this bug as INSUFFICIENT_DATA. Thank you.

[This is a bulk message for all open Fedora Rawhide Xorg-related bugs. I'm adding myself to the CC list for each bug, so I'll see any comments you make after this and do my best to make sure every issue gets proper attention.]

Comment 7 Bug Zapper 2009-11-16 12:13:25 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 12 development cycle.
Changing version to '12'.

More information and reason for this action is here:

Comment 8 Chris Campbell 2009-12-05 16:35:53 UTC
Niels, please read over Comment #4 and Comment #5. Could you please let us know how your system/card handles an up to date package, perhaps the released version of Fedora 12?

Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team

Comment 9 Ben Skeggs 2010-02-24 04:20:44 UTC
ION is now correctly supported by nouveau as of kernel-

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