Bug 650598 - Nouveau refuses to load on a Geforce 2 MX (NV11)
Summary: Nouveau refuses to load on a Geforce 2 MX (NV11)
Keywords:
Status: CLOSED EOL
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: xorg-x11-drv-nouveau
Version: 19
Hardware: i386
OS: Unspecified
low
high
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ben Skeggs
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Whiteboard:
Depends On:
Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2010-11-07 10:19 UTC by Ivo Anjo
Modified: 2015-02-17 13:27 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

Fixed In Version:
Doc Type: Bug Fix
Doc Text:
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Environment:
Last Closed: 2015-02-17 13:27:22 UTC
Type: ---
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Attachments (Terms of Use)
Xorg.0.log (67.38 KB, text/x-log)
2010-11-07 10:20 UTC, Ivo Anjo
no flags Details
lspci.txt (5.95 KB, text/plain)
2010-11-07 10:20 UTC, Ivo Anjo
no flags Details
dmesg.txt (32.98 KB, text/plain)
2010-11-07 10:20 UTC, Ivo Anjo
no flags Details
lsmod (1.30 KB, text/plain)
2010-11-07 10:21 UTC, Ivo Anjo
no flags Details
Output of 'lspci -vvn' (6.93 KB, text/plain)
2010-11-08 21:12 UTC, Ivo Anjo
no flags Details

Description Ivo Anjo 2010-11-07 10:19:37 UTC
Description of problem:
Nouveau does not load at all on this hardware. Booting is done without KMS, both on Fedora 14 live cd and installed rawhide, and I get a Xorg using the VESA driver.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-13.20101010git8c8f15c.fc14.i686
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.9.1-2.fc15.i686
kernel-2.6.36-1.fc15.i686

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Boot system
  
Actual results:
Xorg is using VESA driver

Expected results:
KMS on ttys, plymouth, Xorg using nouveau driver

Additional info:
Dmesg doesn't say anything at all about nouveau. If I try to "modprobe nouveau" I get:
WARNING: Error inserting i2c_algo_bit (/lib/modules/2.6.36-1.fc15.i686/kernel/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.ko): No such device
WARNING: Error inserting drm (/lib/modules/2.6.36-1.fc15.i686/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.ko): No such device
WARNING: Error inserting drm_kms_helper (/lib/modules/2.6.36-1.fc15.i686/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_kms_helper.ko): No such device
WARNING: Error inserting ttm (/lib/modules/2.6.36-1.fc15.i686/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm.ko): No such device
FATAL: Error inserting nouveau (/lib/modules/2.6.36-1.fc15.i686/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko): No such device

and Xorg.0.log says
[   241.879] (II) NOUVEAU driver 
[   241.879] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
[   241.879]    RIVA TNT    (NV04)
[   241.880]    RIVA TNT2   (NV05)
[   241.880]    GeForce 256 (NV10)
[   241.880]    GeForce 2   (NV11, NV15)
[   241.880]    GeForce 4MX (NV17, NV18)
[   241.881]    GeForce 3   (NV20)
[   241.881]    GeForce 4Ti (NV25, NV28)
[   241.881]    GeForce FX  (NV3x)
[   241.881]    GeForce 6   (NV4x)
[   241.882]    GeForce 7   (G7x)
[   241.882]    GeForce 8   (G8x)
[   241.882] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[   241.883] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[   241.884] (--) using VT number 1
[   241.915] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[   242.008] (WW) LoadKernelModule: Setting of real/effective user Id to 0/0 failed
[   242.100] [drm] failed to load kernel module "nouveau"
[   242.100] (EE) [drm] failed to open device
and then switches to VESA

Smolts:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_15837f0f-d833-4384-a6e5-2cbde5b3a08d

Comment 1 Ivo Anjo 2010-11-07 10:20:10 UTC
Created attachment 458442 [details]
Xorg.0.log

Comment 2 Ivo Anjo 2010-11-07 10:20:28 UTC
Created attachment 458443 [details]
lspci.txt

Comment 3 Ivo Anjo 2010-11-07 10:20:51 UTC
Created attachment 458444 [details]
dmesg.txt

Comment 4 Ivo Anjo 2010-11-07 10:21:14 UTC
Created attachment 458445 [details]
lsmod

Comment 5 Ben Skeggs 2010-11-07 23:07:24 UTC
This is rather weird.  Can you post "lspci -vvn" output please.

Comment 6 Ivo Anjo 2010-11-08 21:12:59 UTC
Created attachment 458890 [details]
Output of 'lspci -vvn'

Comment 7 Peter Glassenbury 2010-11-09 23:31:53 UTC
I have a "me too" .. similar results. Not sure if it is a bug or lack of knowledge on implementation(since shifting from F12 nvidia to F14 nouveau drivers)
Note .. this on a x86_64 installation rather than i386.

Using F14 release. 
kernel 2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64
Nvidia Card G84 (GeForce 8600 GT
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-11.20100826git065576d.fc14.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.9.1-2.fc14.x86_64

modprobe nouveau gives the same messages with the path being
/lib/modules/2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64/kernel/....
What further information would you require to help diagnose this

Comment 8 Adam Williamson 2011-01-11 17:15:37 UTC
requested info was provided. I note, though, Ivo, you say "Booting is done without KMS". You mean, KMS doesn't seem to kick in, rather than you disabled it with 'nomodeset'? Using nouveau without KMS is no longer supported, so if you're manually disabling KMS, this wouldn't be a bug...



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Comment 9 Adam Williamson 2011-01-11 17:15:56 UTC

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Comment 10 Ivo Anjo 2011-01-11 18:04:30 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> requested info was provided. I note, though, Ivo, you say "Booting is done
> without KMS". You mean, KMS doesn't seem to kick in, rather than you disabled
> it with 'nomodeset'? Using nouveau without KMS is no longer supported, so if
> you're manually disabling KMS, this wouldn't be a bug...
> 
> 
> 
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Yes, I mean that I did not change (or disable) anything, and KMS just wouldn't start up as it does on other supported hardware.

Comment 11 Adam Williamson 2011-01-11 22:58:10 UTC
Cool, thanks for the clarification. Over to Ben.



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Comment 12 Ben Skeggs 2011-01-12 05:52:01 UTC
Adam, I think the problem is elsewhere than nouveau.  There's a -ENODEV from various other modules that nouveau depends on, hence, it can't load.

Comment 13 Adam Williamson 2011-01-12 14:50:55 UTC
ben: so do we re-assign to kernel and throw it to kyle or chuck or something?



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Comment 14 Ben Schwartz 2011-12-24 03:08:25 UTC
I think this bug (Nouveau does not load) is no longer the case, as documented in #770197 ... although the new behavior might be even worse.

Comment 15 Salah Coronya 2013-03-05 07:03:42 UTC
I gave a comptuer with the same chipset (NV11, 32MB VRAM), and ran into the same problem in Fedora 18, it worked in previous versions until then. The problem is nouveau needs acpi - The machine is so old (2000) the validitor couldn't parse the BIOS date an thought it was "too old" and so disabled ACPI. Yours has a similar problem:

ACPI: BIOS age (1997) fails cutoff (1999), acpi=force is required to enable ACPI

Applying acpi=force as suggested in the dmesg fixed thed this problem.

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