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Description of problem: Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): crypto-utils-2.4.1-27 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. grep sendmail /etc/cron.daily/certwatch Actual results: 1./usr/bin/certwatch ... "$n" | /usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi -t 2>/dev/null Expected results: 1. /usr/bin/certwatch ... "$n" Additional info: crond, which runs jobs like certwatch, has a long-standing and well understood way of dealing with errors. Any command that outputs an error on stderr gets it sent by mail to root (or whatever). crond even has a MAILTO option to fine tune this. It has long been standard practice to deal with errors this way. No stderr output generally means no error. And stderr content generally contains all of the information the end user needs. So I cannot understand why somebody has gone to the laborious effort construct an email format for /usr/bin/certwatch output. Errors should just be written to standard error and let crond handle it. Otherwise certwatch is trying to be too clever. Besides, it is probably a big mistake and a security risk to allow a background task to send email according to whatever, if any, email address might be written on a most probably expired certificate.
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This is by design. 1. We want to generate multiple mails. 2. We want subject lines which clearly identify the warning, rather than "Cron ... stuff" 3. LogWatch has always worked the same way, a reasonable precedent.
(In reply to Joe Orton from comment #4) > This is by design. > > 1. We want to generate multiple mails. > So you have never heard of '~/.forward'? Or of '~/.procmailrc'? Or crond's MAILTO which I also mentioned? There are already multiple ways in which multiple email recipients can get their mail. > 2. We want subject lines which clearly identify the warning, rather than > "Cron ... stuff" That is a crond bug that could/should be fixed. A simply fix might be to allow crond to interpret possible email headers. If the standout/stderr of a job contains a line "Subject: .." immediately followed by an empty line then have crond use that as its email subject line rather than the standard one. In other words, if crond recognises the job's output looks like an email then use some of its header. > 3. LogWatch has always worked the same way, a reasonable precedent. Not a reasonable precedent! LogWatch is yet another annoying program that I always turn off post install. Two bad programs don't make one right.
What you are saying is that you don't agree with the choice of design. That's fine; since this is free software you are free to create alternative software which follows a different design. But "I do not agree with the design of the software" is not a useful bug report. Please don't re-open this bug.
So what gives you the right to dictate to everybody else your own personal preference? And why don't you ever modify your own opinion based on other expert opinion? Why just close the bug without discussing the actual merit or otherwise of the points that I raise? When you simply close the bug without responding to the particular points raised one can only assume that your dictatorial nature, and the exposed flaw in your original argument, leads you immediate close as "not a bug" as an act of spite.