Bug 728948 - unfortunate dependency chain from gdm to yum
Summary: unfortunate dependency chain from gdm to yum
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: gnome-settings-daemon
Version: 16
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Bastien Nocera
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
Depends On:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2011-08-08 13:07 UTC by Mads Kiilerich
Modified: 2013-02-13 11:33 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2013-02-13 11:33:00 UTC

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Description Mads Kiilerich 2011-08-08 13:07:41 UTC
In F16 gdm requires gnome-settings-daemon which requires PackageKit-glib which indirectly requires yum. That gives an unfortunate and long dependency chain for live CDs. Could you please break that chain?

I don't know how the chain could be broken. Do gdm really need gnome-settings-daemon?

Alternatively, if it has to be reassigned to gnome-settigns-daemon: Could PackageKit be an optional plugin to gnome-settings-daemon instead of a mandatory dependency?

Comment 1 Ray Strode [halfline] 2011-08-09 18:51:05 UTC
gdm definitely needs gnome-settings-daemon.

I could see an argument for PackageKit not requiring yum since it supports multiple backends, and I could see an argument for gnome-settings-daemon having a subpackage for optional plugins.

Certainly for one-off-special-purpose spins I could imagine not wanting yum.  It's hard for me to imagine wanting gdm in those scenarios either though.

Comment 2 Mads Kiilerich 2011-08-09 19:18:20 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Certainly for one-off-special-purpose spins I could imagine not wanting yum. 
> It's hard for me to imagine wanting gdm in those scenarios either though.

Agreed. Many/most spins don't "want" gdm but include it (by dependencies?) and just configure it to autologin. That is also a waste of resources.

It was my impression that gdm also did something extra that was important and wasn't easy to live without - and apparently no other spinners has tried and succeeded in creating a spin without gdm. Can you give a hint how gdm can be bypassed completely? Is it just a matter of hacking display-manager.service or prefdm to exec gnome-session like Xsession does?

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