Bug 753325 - "US-International (with cedilla)" keyboard layout needed!
Summary: "US-International (with cedilla)" keyboard layout needed!
Keywords:
Status: CLOSED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: xkeyboard-config
Version: 16
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
unspecified
high
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Peter Hutterer
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2011-11-11 21:16 UTC by Italo Maia
Modified: 2013-02-13 21:02 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Doc Type: Bug Fix
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Last Closed: 2013-02-13 21:02:20 UTC
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Attachments (Terms of Use)
symbols/us (56.59 KB, text/plain)
2011-12-04 03:42 UTC, Italo Maia
no flags Details
xkbcomb output (55.84 KB, text/plain)
2011-12-04 03:43 UTC, Italo Maia
no flags Details

Description Italo Maia 2011-11-11 21:16:27 UTC
Description of problem:
For reference. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=207906

US-International should allow cedilla when '+c is typed.

Comment 1 Peter Hutterer 2011-11-29 03:49:35 UTC
What's wrong with AltGr + , and "compose , c"? Am I missing something here?

Comment 2 Italo Maia 2011-11-29 03:59:47 UTC
"c + '" for cedilla is what is mostly used when you don't have a "ç" key in your keyboard. For brazilians, that would be very helpful.

Comment 3 Peter Hutterer 2011-11-29 04:05:02 UTC
unfortunately the us(intl) variant is just that - international, not specifically geared towards any language afaict. since it already has two ways of typing the cedilla (one with the compose key), I'd rather not have another one added, even if that is more useful for one specific language.

Comment 4 Italo Maia 2011-11-29 04:14:25 UTC
Well, i saw some spanish people complaining too. Anyway, let me more straight forward here: the same keyboard layout in ubuntu (us international) as in fedora do different things. In ubuntu, "'+ c" gives you cedilla. In Windows too! Only fedora does it differently (in a bad way). If the current international with dead keys could be improved to do this, all the better, if not, a us international with cedilla would be very helpful.

Comment 5 Peter Hutterer 2011-11-29 04:55:48 UTC
do you have a ubuntu machine handy? can you please attach /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us and the output of "xkbcomp -xkb $DISPLAY -" here (uncompressed, separate files). Diff doesn't show me any difference from the oneric package I just downloaded and the vanilla xkeyboard-config we ship.

Comment 6 Italo Maia 2011-12-04 03:42:20 UTC
Created attachment 540229 [details]
symbols/us

As requested

Comment 7 Italo Maia 2011-12-04 03:43:35 UTC
Created attachment 540230 [details]
xkbcomb output

As requested.

Comment 8 Peter Hutterer 2011-12-15 06:44:25 UTC
I don't see a difference between the files on F16 and your files, so I have no idea why this could possibly work differently on Ubuntu. One thing I did notice is that the layout from the xkbcomp output is not the US international, but the US alternative international layout.

switching my keyboard to us(alt-int) and diffing my xkbcomp output against yours also shows no changes. are these the right files from ubuntu?

Comment 9 Italo Maia 2011-12-15 12:03:12 UTC
Yeap, they're as requested. Do you have access to a eeepc 1201N? Try to install fedora in it with brazilian language and brazilian keyboard and try to set cedilla as being "'+c". If you can't, then try changing the keyboard layout many times. It will soon crash.

Comment 10 Paulo Cheadi Haddad Filho 2012-03-18 21:50:40 UTC
Hey!

Just changed from Ubuntu, now using Fedora 16.

I got this problem too. I think it's a problem because every other OS that uses Portuguese lets you choose keyboard layouts such as Brazilian ABNT2 or US International, which I can say are the most used layouts down here.

What I see now is there's no combination for using US International layout with Portuguese as input language as saw in Windows, for example. Ubuntu didn't have this problem also. That combination would permit that [aeiou] + [^~`'"] = [aeiou] with accent and [cC] + ' = çÇ, and any other character (I don't remember now, I can post here later after some testing if you wish) gets letter[^~`'"].

I think this pattern should be applied to Fedora as well, to avoid such unconfortable usage like I'm feeling right now, and maintain consistency for the sake of user experience.

I can live with Alt + comma + [cC], demanding some training, because I used acute + [cC] since half 90's. And, yes, I prefer that old way.

I'll follow this thread closely. =)


Thanks!

Comment 11 Jens Petersen 2012-09-13 10:17:23 UTC
You need to use X locale compose for that.

eg Run im-chooser and select "X compose table" or im-cedilla (but that only works in gtk apps) and restart your desktop session.

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