Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 761640
Remove tray icon option
Last modified: 2015-02-18 08:39:54 EST
Tray icons are deprecated in GNOME 3. Because GNOME 3 has persistent notifications, unseen IRC messages get an icon and are kept in the message tray, so a tray icon is not useful anymore and clutters the tray when there are no unseen messages.
"Enable system tray icon" option should be removed in Preferences->Chatting->Alerts dialog and the tray icon is disabled.
We're already disabling that option by default, unlike upstream. I don't see what the problem is with having that option. GNOME is not the only desktop in the world. If you want a fully GNOME approved XChat with all the options removed, use xchat-gnome, which is already in Fedora. I'm fed up of GNOME continuously trying to impose their design on cross-desktop applications.
Sorry, I should have mentioned that you can check "persistence" capability of the notification server to detect GNOME 3. I'll file the bug upstream too and will link to it here, so if you create a patch, it can be pushed upstream too.
Given that GNOME 3 is the major desktop environment for Fedora, it is important to support it and ensure the best user experience across the board, including programs such as XChat. "Enable system tray icon" option is unnecessary in GNOME 3. I'm in the process of making some screenshots to explain this.
The option isn't going to kill anyone. I don't understand the point of this, at all.
Now, if Christopher (the primary maintainer of XChat in Fedora) or Remi want to work on a patch as you suggested, I won't stop them (as long as it really only removes the option in GNOME 3 and not everywhere), but I don't see any need to work on this myself.
(In reply to comment #2)
> Sorry, I should have mentioned that you can check "persistence" capability of
> the notification server to detect GNOME 3. I'll file the bug upstream too and
> will link to it here, so if you create a patch, it can be pushed upstream too.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but usually people who have a feature requests submit patches instead of simply requesting them.
> Given that GNOME 3 is the major desktop environment for Fedora, it is important
> to support it and ensure the best user experience across the board, including
> programs such as XChat. "Enable system tray icon" option is unnecessary in
> GNOME 3. I'm in the process of making some screenshots to explain this.
Given that GNOME 3 is the major desktop environment for Fedora, it is important that it follows standards. Unlike persistent notifications, the systray *is* a freedesktop.org standard  that is implemented in quite a number of desktop environments (GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE), window managers (awesome, fluxbox, WindowMaker) and applications (alltray, bmpanel2, docker, fbpanel, gnome-panel, kicker, lxpanel, stalonetray, tint2, tktray, xfce4-panel) and many more. Not to mention all applications that offer a tray icon and the fact that there is no counterpart in GNOME because persistent notifications are something completely different.
GNOME abandoning a standard that was largely designed by GNOME people is one thing, but claiming that an option should be removed just because it is deprecated in gnome-shell is a completely different story. Please don't impose your will on others, this already happens way to often in Fedora.
Marina, I am sure it was not your intention, but the fact that you filed this bug speaks volumes about how much GNOME developers care for cross-desktop interoperability.
Please don't remove this option since I (Xfce user) still need an option to enable the tray icon.
Thanks a lot!
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