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Bug 812982 - Lack of arrow on scrollbar renders scrollbar useless in some situations
Lack of arrow on scrollbar renders scrollbar useless in some situations
Status: NEW
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: gnome-themes-standard (Show other bugs)
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Assigned To: Matthias Clasen
Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
: 828005 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2012-04-16 13:39 EDT by Eric Paris
Modified: 2015-07-15 11:09 EDT (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Eric Paris 2012-04-16 13:39:58 EDT
The default theme in F17 removed the arrow at the ends of the scrollbar.  In a couple of situations this leaves the scrollbars completely useless.  My personal example which is causing a huge amount of trouble is my e-mail inbox.  I have 19,000 emails in my inbox and that pane in evolution is about 2 inches high on the screen.  The scrollbar does let me get quickly from the top to the bottom but near the top or bottom there is not enough room around the scrollbar to click above/below to move one page at a time.  Moving it with my mouse jumps about 10 'pages' worth of messages at a time.

What I'm doing today is moving it all the way to the bottom them clicking above the scroll to go up page at a time.  If the number of objects is small enough and the pane is large enough that the granularity using the mouse is reasonable no arrows works just fine.  But with a long enough list the arrows become a must in order to move with small granularity....
Comment 1 Eric Paris 2012-04-16 14:39:23 EDT
Just found:

Let me explain exactly what I do which causes problems.

I generally sort e-mail (evolution) by date with the oldest at the bottom.  I can then click in the 'trough' (I think i'm using the right word) a couple of times to get the the 'beginning' of my new e-mails.

Now what I do is start at the oldest 'unread' e-mail and read the ones I care the most about, skipping those I don't care about.  When I look at the last on the page I want to be able to 'scroll down' to see the next page of messages.  I cannot click and hold on the indicator and drag it down, because the granularity if WAY too many lines of e-mails.  I cannot click in the tough below the scroller because it is too small.  If I had a scroll wheel I could use that, but I don't have a working scroll wheel.

If I have something highlighted in the correct pane I can use up/down pageup/pagedown but then I risk accidentally marking an e-mail as read (it does so if it is in the preview pane too long) even though I'm really just trying to scroll.

Does that make sense?  Create a really really long list of items, scan the last 100 items in the list.  It's really really hard without arrows.....

Where is a better place to post this type of review/comments?
Comment 2 Matthias Clasen 2012-04-19 23:15:19 EDT
Thanks for taking the time to explain your problem in detail. I've added a to your comment in the design page.
Comment 4 Fedora End Of Life 2013-07-03 20:20:00 EDT
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Comment 5 Matthew Saltzman 2013-07-03 22:50:16 EDT
Please update Fedora version.  This is still the case in Fedora 18, at least, adn still extremely annoying.  Thank you.
Comment 6 Matthias Clasen 2014-11-15 11:50:14 EST
*** Bug 828005 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 Jan Kurik 2015-07-15 11:09:53 EDT
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 23 development cycle.
Changing version to '23'.

(As we did not run this process for some time, it could affect also pre-Fedora 23 development
cycle bugs. We are very sorry. It will help us with cleanup during Fedora 23 End Of Life. Thank you.)

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