Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 982350
System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Last modified: 2014-02-05 17:05:21 EST
Description of problem:
If you don't use the keyboard or mouse for a while the system freezes or the sound plays in a loop, if you were playing something.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
don't use the keyboard or mouse
What do you think ? The system should work !
Same as this bug from Ubuntu:
(In reply to gala_dragos from comment #0)
> Description of problem:
> If you don't use the keyboard or mouse for a while the system freezes or the
> sound plays in a loop, if you were playing something.
> Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
> How reproducible:
> don't use the keyboard or mouse
> Expected results:
> What do you think ? The system should work !
I think this bug report is lacking any sort of relevant information.
> Additional info:
> Same as this bug from Ubuntu:
I think that bug is also fairly useless, even ignoring that it was reported against Ubuntu from almost 3 years ago.
What kernel(s) are you seeing this with? Has it always happened, or is there a particular kernel version you started seeing this? What is the latest kernel version you have tested?
Could you please attach the following as plain-text attachments:
Can you ssh into the machine when it's frozen? If so, is there anything in dmesg or /var/log/messages that indicates a kernel panic or oops has happened?
What kind of machine is this? Is the BIOS fully updated?
Do any of the suggestions for kernel options listed in the Ubuntu bug help?
Module Size Used by
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ipt_MASQUERADE 12760 1
ip6table_mangle 12620 1
ip6t_REJECT 12826 2
nf_conntrack_ipv6 18318 23
nf_defrag_ipv6 17824 1 nf_conntrack_ipv6
iptable_nat 12867 1
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nf_nat 24670 3 ipt_MASQUERADE,nf_nat_ipv4,iptable_nat
iptable_mangle 12615 1
nf_conntrack_ipv4 14320 20
nf_defrag_ipv4 12601 1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
xt_conntrack 12664 42
nf_conntrack 74027 9 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,ipt_MASQUERADE,nf_nat,nf_nat_ipv4,xt_conntrack,nf_conntrack_broadcast,iptable_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_ipv6
ebtable_filter 12715 0
ebtables 21315 1 ebtable_filter
ip6table_filter 12711 1
ip6_tables 17634 2 ip6table_filter,ip6table_mangle
rfcomm 57618 6
bnep 18956 2
fuse 75772 5
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 36248 1
acpi_cpufreq 18972 0
mperf 12551 1 acpi_cpufreq
kvm_amd 50429 0
kvm 376966 1 kvm_amd
snd_hda_codec_realtek 36157 1
snd_hda_intel 42620 3
snd_hda_codec 155313 3 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13232 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_seq 54699 0
snd_seq_device 13824 1 snd_seq
snd_pcm 85985 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_page_alloc 13852 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer 23742 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd 63246 15 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
soundcore 14123 1 snd
rc_winfast 12454 0
tuner_simple 17839 1
tuner_types 18927 1 tuner_simple
tda9887 17625 1
tda8290 21980 0
tea5767 12988 0
tuner 26824 2
stir4200 17902 0
irda 104359 1 stir4200
cx8800 32629 0
cx88xx 77138 1 cx8800
btcx_risc 13146 2 cx8800,cx88xx
tveeprom 16917 1 cx88xx
videobuf_dma_sg 18283 2 cx8800,cx88xx
videobuf_core 24013 3 videobuf_dma_sg,cx8800,cx88xx
rc_core 25510 3 cx88xx,rc_winfast
microcode 18726 0
radeon 734439 2
v4l2_common 15263 3 tuner,cx8800,cx88xx
ttm 68214 1 radeon
videodev 97059 4 tuner,cx8800,cx88xx,v4l2_common
drm_kms_helper 44905 1 radeon
sp5100_tco 13643 0
media 19719 1 videodev
drm 224444 4 ttm,drm_kms_helper,radeon
i2c_piix4 17682 0
i2c_algo_bit 13065 2 cx88xx,radeon
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ppdev 17363 0
k10temp 12958 0
btusb 19102 0
r8169 61609 0
crc_ccitt 12549 1 irda
bluetooth 316400 22 bnep,btusb,rfcomm
rfkill 20748 2 bluetooth
parport_pc 27403 0
parport 39143 2 ppdev,parport_pc
mii 13311 1 r8169
uinput 17297 0
ata_generic 12790 0
pata_acpi 12886 0
firewire_ohci 35451 0
firewire_core 55929 1 firewire_ohci
crc_itu_t 12549 1 firewire_core
pata_atiixp 13058 3
wmi 18273 0
usb_storage 46753 0
>>> Is the BIOS fully updated?
I haven't seen a bios bug in more that a decade! Even so, the bios is up to date, and the whole system as well.
Here is my post to fedoraforum web site:
This thing happened before but it fixed itself when I've enabled vsync on the proprietary ati driver.
I have applied the fix in the ubuntu thread to make the system usable again, the whole information is in that thread !
>>> I think this bug report is lacking any sort of relevant information.
Real bugs happen with no apparent reason!
Created attachment 770791 [details]
messages log file
Instead of dmesg,the actual log file that was written during the time I was trying to solve the problem.
>>> Can you ssh into the machine when it's frozen?
This isn't a server, it is a full desktop machine, for development usage. I do not have ssh enabled, but even if it would have been enabled, it would not do any good, any running app would freeze unless I press a key or move the mouse.
Again, to fix this weird behavior I've added "nolapic_timer" to kernel parameters and now I'm having no problem at all. This is the temporary fix stated in the Ubuntu thread.
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It DOESN'T WORK !
I still need nolapic_timer as boot parameter or else the system freezes when I don't use the mouse or keyboard.
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