From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021003 Description of problem: When logging in and choosing the KDE session, under user and root, with all kernels I have (the initial one on the RH 8 CD and the most recent ones), I get the message for kdeinit and ksmserver taht they cannot oepn and that I should review my configuration. I have used Ximian red-carpet to take away all releavant kde components and reinstalled kde components available after removel of my old ones from the same source (red-carpet 2.0.1) I have checked with KDE on their website, with kde-linux list and by writing to George Staikos, their North American rep. Their response is that it is a RedHat problem, not a KDE one. How could this bug be sorted out? Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): kdebase 3.0.5a-4, How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.log in Linux 2.choose KDE session 3.entre as user and type the apssword, 4. click "enter" 5. Actual Results: And this is where I get the message in two samll alert windows, one for kdeinit and the other one for ksmserver Expected Results: I should hsve started in KDE Additional info: We tried everything on my user folder, by logging out and changing kernel, taking out kde and erinstalling, and i cannot remember how many maneuvres in root.
Does it work again if you start KDE as new user (you have to add a new user first) ? for debugging, i need some infos: * the output of "df -h" * the output of "rpm -qa" Thanks
1: df -h: [yvesbaja@localhost yvesbaja]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 7.9G 5.8G 1.6G 78% / /dev/hda2 99M 27M 67M 29% /boot none 251M 0 250M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hdb1 9.9G 2.3G 7.1G 24% /home 2 rpm -qa |=less dbm-1.8.0-18 linc-0.5.2-2 freetype-2.1.2-7 ntp-4.1.1a-9 libxml-1.8.17-5 pyxf86config-0.3.1-2 gnome-vfs2-2.0.2-5 crontabs-1.10-4 gpm-1.19.3-23 gzip-1.3.3-5 mailx-8.1.1-26 ntsysv-1.3.6-3 psutils-1.17-17 tcp_wrappers-7.6-23 usbutils-0.9-7 ypbind-1.11-2 miniChinput-0.0.3-27 cups-drivers-1.9-1.20020617.6 curl-7.9.8-1 libusb-devel-0.1.6-1 swig-1.1p5-20 gdb-5.2.1-4 m4-1.4.1-11 emacs-21.2-18 bitmap-fonts-0.2-2 gtk2-engines-1.9.0-4 mpage-2.5.2-4 perl-libwww-perl-5.65-2 4Suite-0.11.1-10 switchdesk-gnome-3.9.8-9 glib-devel-1.2.10-8 librsvg-devel-1.0.2-5 pango-devel-1.1.1-1 knm_new-1.1-8 watanabe-vf-1.0-8 libacl-devel-2.0.11-2 finger-server-0.17-14 man-pages-pl-0.22-10 aumix-2.7-12 aspell-sv-1.3.8-2 SDL_image-1.2.2-3 amanda-2.4.2p2-9 autoconvert-0.3.7-8 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Just curious... Any progress? Yves Bajard
This may not be the proper way to address the Red Hat Bugzilla system, but I find that my bug 98810 is considered as closed and the comment iin resolution is "current release" Could you explain me how I can resolve my issue in practical terms and log in KDE? In what does"current release"resolve the issue?
This bug was reported 11 days ago. I sent a full image of my system to the bugzilla people on their request. Then the case was declared resolved and closed by the person who had examined it, with a cryptical mesage "CURRENT RELEASE" and n o indication of how I could set my KDE into operation. I reopened it a week ago with a few questions asbout the meaning of that mesage and asking what to do about it. I am still operating without KDE, and this is a handicap. Should I scrap my whole ssytem,, saving my Home directory on the side, and reisntall? That would mean a lot of work, stetting up my Mozilla Evolution, reconfiguring my printer. scanned, faxmodem,etc.. Would there be a way tro avoid that? Or should I change distro?
>Then the case was declared resolved and closed > by the person who had examined it, with a cryptical mesage "CURRENT RELEASE" Means: upgrade to the latest version, ie, either rh9 and/or kde-3.1.x.
Hm, it's strange! it did not close this bug! if someone has closed the bug, please write some comments here, thanks. Yves Bajard: i'm sorry for this mistake! you did not give me the info about starting KDE with a new user! Could you please add a new user and try to start with this user. Does it work for you? It's weird here. I still cannot reproduce this problem on my machine.
Thanks for last message. I tried with a new user. It does not work either. Maybe the solution would be to re-install the system, with apt and introduce the apt improved rpms and upgrade to KDE 3.1.2 I would like to stay on RH 8, but would hope to avoid having to re-install from scratch, given the time it takes to do it, upd2date and re-install the other packages (OOo1.1.rc, Evo 1.4, Mozilla 1.4., cd writer, scanner, printer through CUps, etc..Realplayer, etc.. But it may be the simplest way of gettign out of the bug.. Wipe out and start again.. Yewt, is there a way to upgrade without having to dismantle the whole current system? Thanks Yves Bajard
IN nearly one month, I did not receive much useful advice about this bud So, I rearranged my whole system, to put the /home directory aside on a separate partition, opened 11 GB of free space on my second hard disk, then installed RH8 anew on that free space, and mounted my old /home on it, I hav now a working system with KDE et cetera, and a limping system that I will wipe out as soonas I can arrange transfer of basic support from RHN from the limping system to the working one. I am not sure of what I will do with the space freed by the scrapping of the old system, but will perhaps install a Debian Linux package, and hse again the same /home folder for both, which I find a very practical way of doing things.. I am now closing this bug. No solution other than re-inbstallation.. Thanks to all those who tried to help
if you find a way how this problem can be always reproduced, please give me more info about it. thanks
I don't know and cannot remember. This has been a nightmare for over a month (I was deep in it before I decided to report it as a RH bug). All I remember is that it started with a faulty installation of Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 with the Ximian Red Carpet.. As we are now at Xiomian Evolutiuon 1.4.4 and a few notches ut in REWd Carpet, I belive that this bud cannot happen again. In any event, I would recommend that if anyone experiences such a cutoff from KDE in RH8 (or maybe any other distro), for whatever reason it may be, they take the following route: 1,stop figting to retore KDE, 2. save their home directory and its contents ona separatee partition using Gnome as a window manager or working from window terminal in commad line, 3. reinstall (as muchas possible on free space they can open somewhere on their Hard disk(s) without destroying the limping system (as a measure of safety) 4. then do a set of commands on the new installation: (in root) 4.1 : # mkdir /mnt/temp 4.2. # mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/temp (assuming that /dev/hdb1 is where they stored their old /home directory (by copying it there of anyother way they can) 4.3. # mv /home/* /mnt/temp 4.4. # rm -rf /home/* 4,5, # unmount /mnt/temp 4.6. # mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /home 4.7 then edit their /etc/fstab and add the following line in the middle: /dev/hdb1 /home ext3 defaults 1 1 so that the mold /home directory be mounted automatically on the new installation. BY the way, you can mount your /home directory on as many separate systems RH or other distros, mounted separately on your computer as you wish, (if you want to upgrade to RH9 while not scrapping RH8, for example, or try another distro, in parallel with RH8..)This demands however a fairly large capacity on your hard disks. As a matter of fact, I used Acronis Partition manager in Windows, to develop the free space I needed. Their Partition Manager is excellent to that end (too abd theyare notavailable on Linux, for now).I installed their OS Selector on my MBR, to help select the system at boot up. It calls all systems installed on the machine and sends you to either Windows, DOS prompt or the various Linuxes or other distros you may have (for Linux, sending you to their respective Grubs (or Lilos, I assume) with a choice of Kernels,as you probably experience with your machine anyway. The trick, once you have Acronis OS, is to quit all systems, close down the computer competely, then start it again in windows, for a short while, from whatever Grub which comes up, leave it for a while without doing anything but letting Acronis OS set itself on MBR, then close the machine or restart it. Youi will then have Acronis OS propose you a choice, and you are on your own to click on any linux or other system you want. . Hope that the above is useful to some people