Bug 1603094

Summary: ! LaTeX Error: This NFSS system isn't set up properly.
Product: [Fedora] Fedora Reporter: Paul DeStefano <prd-fedora>
Component: texliveAssignee: Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa>
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Description Paul DeStefano 2018-07-19 07:03:34 UTC
Description of problem:
I was trying beamer theme epyt, but got this new error I've never seen before

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
texlive-polyglossia-6:svn40138-50.fc28.2.noarch
texlive-csquotes-6:svn39538-50.fc28.2.noarch
texlive-beamertheme-epyt.noarch

How reproducible:
I don't know, but I cannot make it go away.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. set beamer theme to epyt \usetheme{epyt}
2. pdflatex

Actual results:
...
Package biblatex Warning: Patching footnotes failed.
(biblatex)                Footnote detection will not work.


Package biblatex Warning: 'babel/polyglossia' detected but 'csquotes' missing.
(biblatex)                Loading 'csquotes' recommended.

(./beamerposter.aux) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/newtx/omlnxlmi.fd
) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/newtx/untxexa.fd)
(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ts1cmr.fd)
(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/newtx/lmsntxsy.fd)
(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/newtx/lmxntxexx.fd)
No file MDAcmr.fd.

! LaTeX Error: This NFSS system isn't set up properly.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
 ...

l.103 \begin{document}

Comment 1 Michael J Gruber 2018-09-25 14:49:59 UTC
texlive-mathdesign provides the file that you are missing. Some packages (such as texlive-arev) do not "require" it in the spec even though they should.

Comment 2 Ben Cotton 2019-05-02 20:50:48 UTC
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Comment 3 Michael J Gruber 2019-05-03 08:35:59 UTC
Fedora 30 comes with texlive 2018, and texlive-arev still does not "require" texlive-mathdesign. (It requires tex(arevmath.sty) which it provides itself...)

So this is not fixed yet, it seems. Note that most people will install larger collections or schemes, and thus do not encounter the broken dependency chain.

I guess TL 2019 is on the doorsteps, though.

Comment 4 Ben Cotton 2020-04-30 22:08:20 UTC
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Comment 5 Ben Cotton 2020-05-26 14:59:50 UTC
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Comment 6 Michael J Gruber 2020-05-26 18:53:58 UTC
This issue is still the same in rawhide.

As I mentioned in comment #1 there are more packages which need texlive-mathdesign for typesetting mathematics but not require the package (e.g. utopia, heuristica). Typically, they at least mentioned the need for mathdesign in their description.

As for arev, the package is "for using Arev Sans in both text and mathematics" according to its description, does not mention mathdesign but does require it. So, either this should be mentioned in the description, or (better) the "requires" on mathdesign should be added to arev.

Comment 7 Tom "spot" Callaway 2020-05-26 19:38:05 UTC
Apologies for letting this one sit for so long.

I'm trying to understand why arev should have a Requires on mathdesign. None of the .sty files in arev have any \RequirePackage calls that would merit it.

To be clear, I am not saying you're wrong, I just don't understand what criteria triggers a dependency on mathdesign, and I need to know that in order to get it right in all the places within texlive, as opposed to simply adding Requires: texlive-mathdesign here.

Is it the \DeclareFontEncoding(MDA) call in tex/latex/arev/ams-mdbch.sty ?

Comment 8 Michael J Gruber 2020-05-26 20:11:10 UTC
Yes, you are spot on ;)

A minimal example is

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{arev}
\begin{document}
a
\end{document}

which does not even use math typesetting but loads

/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdacmr.fd

which is provided by texlive-mathdesign. That is, when arev.sty sets up TeX for math typesetting the font description file is needed already. It does not need the style file mathdesign.sty.

This is different for a package like utopia, so I was not correct here (sorry): I you amend the minimal example with a "$h$" it compiles fine without mathdesign but uses cmr fonts for maths. So utopia should probably not require mathdesign, only recommend it, which it does at least in the description.

Comment 9 Tom "spot" Callaway 2020-05-28 15:34:07 UTC
Fixed in rawhide: texlive-2020-23.fc33