Bug 167101

Summary:	No am/pm information with locale es_ES
Product:	Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4	Reporter:	javier wilson <javier>
Component:	glibc	Assignee:	Jakub Jelinek <jakub>
Status:	CLOSED RAWHIDE	QA Contact:	Brian Brock <bbrock>
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Version:	4.0	CC:	drepper
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Description javier wilson 2005-08-30 10:22:55 UTC

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Description of problem:
I found this bug first using php: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=167073

Joe Orton suggested I file this bug here. Then I checked /usr/lib/locale/es_ES/LC_TIME and noticed there was no AM/PM abbreviation.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
glibc-2.3.4-2.9

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. using php run the following code:
setlocale(LC_TIME, "es_ES");
print "Time (es_ES): " . strftime("%I:%M %p") . "<br>\n";
setlocale(LC_TIME, "en_US");
print "Time (en_US): " . strftime("%I:%M %p") . "<br>\n";

Actual Results:  Time (es_ES): 05:36
Time (en_US): 05:36 PM

Expected Results:  Time (es_ES): 05:36 PM
Time (en_US): 05:36 PM

Additional info:

Comment 1 Jakub Jelinek 2005-08-30 11:35:28 UTC

And is there any, used commonly in Spain?
t_fmt_ampm is empty in es_ES (as well as in more than 50% of other locales),
which means that 12 hour format is not supported by the locale.
See http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html
And when it is not supported, empty strings for AM and PM are IMHO just fine.

Comment 2 javier wilson 2005-08-30 15:07:02 UTC

Well, I have lived all my life in Peru, Mexico, Nicaragua, and have been to
Spain a few times, people use AM/PM all the time, in fact, most people don't
understand the 24hr format, i mean, they do understand it, it's just so rarely used.

Comment 3 Ulrich Drepper 2005-08-30 15:43:47 UTC

I very much doubt that anybody in Spain uses am/pm.  I have no idea about
Southamerica, but in Europe nobody really uses this format.  And for all
Southamerican countries you have to provide  prove.  Provide pointers to
official publications or newspapers which use the format.

Comment 4 javier wilson 2005-08-30 17:07:33 UTC

In Nicaragua: goverment: http://www.bcn.gob.ni/ http://www.ineter.gob.ni/
the two main newspapers: http://www.laprensa.com.ni/ http://www.elnuevodiario.com.ni

In Peru: goverment: http://www.congreso.gob.pe/ (all "citaciones" have am/pm)
http://www.pcm.gob.pe/ (all news items have am/pm) newspapers:
http://www.elcomercioperu.com.pe/

And you are right about Spain, people use AM/PM but officially it's the 24hr
format. But anyway, if people are familiar with the AM/PM thing shouldn't it 
be included in the locale file?

In Spanish AM/PM are the abbrevations for "antes meridiano" y "pasado meridiano"
so I believe it should be included in all the Spanish locale files. So that
people can use either format.

Comment 5 Ulrich Drepper 2006-08-02 02:10:20 UTC

I made changes to es_NI and es_PE.  But I won't change es_ES since it's
completely unnecessary.  The result will be in the next rawhide release.

Comment 6 Jakub Jelinek 2006-08-03 06:46:59 UTC

The changes are in glibc-common-2.4.90-17 in rawhide.