Bug 447133

This bug is also a big problem for me. I use several apps that only require the non-x graphviz apps, such as dot, and as OP, I really wouldn't install all those gnome dependencies on my production servers.

Perhaps the now closed bug 206713 could shed some light into a possible solution?

Here's the non-recursive list against rawhide using repoquery:

$ repoquery --requires --resolve --alldeps --qf '%{name}\n graphviz |sort
atk
bash
cairo
expat
fontconfig
freetype
freetype-freeworld
GConf2
gd
glib2
glibc
gnome-vfs2
graphviz
gtk2
libart_lgpl
libbonobo
libbonoboui
libgcc
libgnome
libgnomecanvas
libgnomeui
libICE
libjpeg
libpng
libSM
libstdc++
libtool-ltdl
libX11
libXaw
libXext
libXmu
libXpm
libXt
ORBit2
pango
popt
urw-fonts
zlib


And this is ironic, because graphviz suffers from subpackageitis -- there's 15 subpackages to the main package already. The language-dependent ones make sense because otherwise we'd have to bring in all of java and ocaml and whatever else, but the others:

-devIL:
  DevIL (195k; would also pull in lcms-libs, libmng, and libtiff)

-gd:
 *nothing* not already required by base package (including gd)

-graphs:
 *nothing* -- this doesn't add functionality, and should either
 be added to the docs subpackage if it's useful and dropped if it
 isn't.

I've added the gd comment as bug #468093.

Also, updating this to rawhide -- although I'm not sure if the current list of things still brings in the more ridiculous deps above. (Although "yum remove gnome-themes" does still try to remove graphviz, so it's worth visiting -- remember my list there isn't recursive.)

(In reply to comment #2)
> And this is ironic, because graphviz suffers from subpackageitis

If -gd gets merged with base package, and -graphs with -doc, and the X11-dependent stuff split into a -X11 package, we have two less and one more subpackage, reducing the number of subpackages by one. So, it is a win. :-)

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I was bitten by this in rawhide (F12):

DEBUG util.py:280:  Executing command: /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock#
DEBUG util.py:256:  xfce4-notifyd-0.1.0-1.fc12.x86_64 from build has depsolving#
DEBUG util.py:256:    --> xfce4-notifyd conflicts with notification-daemon
DEBUG util.py:256:  Error: xfce4-notifyd conflicts with notification-daemon
DEBUG util.py:256:   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the probl#
DEBUG util.py:256:   You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
DEBUG util.py:256:                          package-cleanup --dupes
DEBUG util.py:256:                          rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

I use what is presently "graphviz-gd" as a dependency to generate documentation together with doxygen.  The current dependency tree is broken for using graphviz around this conflict in other packages I do not need in rawhide since it pulls gnome and other things.  I vote for a separate subpackage for the gtk/gnome subpackage.  The problem is purely from plugins which use/introduce gtk, cairo and other gnome dependencies, not from graphviz itself, and these plugins could easily be placed in a new subpackage.

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There was never any reply from the maintainer. There's no indication this has been fixed (based on package logs), so moving to rawhide again. Patrick?

From upstream - I understand and am sympathetic to the needs of web servers without X11, however, these days we consider libpangocairo to be basic to good layouts in all formats, not just X11 formats.

Since libpangocairo itself has dependencies on X11, we cannot escape the X11 dependencies in the base package.


I'd even split off all pangocairo (and X11) dependences into their own package - if Fedora's rpm had something like Suse's mechanism for suggesting other packages.
(Something a bit less than "depends on" but stronger than "optional" for most users)


I guess I don't really understand what the big deal is about binary dependencies?  yum or rpm take care of them, no?

(In reply to comment #10)
> I'd even split off all pangocairo (and X11) dependences into their own package
> - if Fedora's rpm had something like Suse's mechanism for suggesting other
> packages.
> (Something a bit less than "depends on" but stronger than "optional" for most
> users)

We do have this; we can make the package be installed by default in the comps file.

> I guess I don't really understand what the big deal is about binary
> dependencies?  yum or rpm take care of them, no?

They take care of pulling them in, which is the problem. In the desktop or laptop case, it's no big deal, as disk space is cheap. But for servers, keeping these unrelated packages off is important for reducing the attack surface. And, for cloud-based deployments or other VM uses, suddenly size is important again. Keeping images small is a big deal, and hard dependency chains like this make that impossible.

ok, I'll see about splitting out x11 dependencies for 2.30

There is a new "graphviz-x" rpm in the development snapshots at www.graphviz.org.

"dot" in the base package is capable of rendering SVG, PS, (and other text formats), but any bitmap format will require graphviz-x, or graphviz-gd, both of which will pull in x11 dependencies.

Feedback welcome - I'm trying to ship 2.30 stable release in the next few weeks.

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