Bug 803342

Summary: Can't show boot menu using modifier keys
Product: [Fedora] Fedora Reporter: Kamil Páral <kparal>
Component: grub2Assignee: Peter Jones <pjones>
Status: CLOSED RAWHIDE QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Description Kamil Páral 2012-03-14 13:46:00 UTC
Description of problem:
If you set timeout=0 in grub.cfg, you are not shown the boot menu. However you can still display it (e.g. when you need recovery mode) by holding SHIFT during grub initialization. Unfortunately this doesn't work in Fedora. It works in other distributions, like Ubuntu.

I vaguely remember I read something that stated that this shift key support is optional and must compiled in as a module. I don't know that for sure. But I know it should work and it doesn't.

Please add shift support to grub, it's quite essential. There's no other way how to access the menu if you set timeout=0. If your default boot menu item breaks, you're in trouble.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
grub2-1.99-14.fc17.i686

How reproducible:
always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. set timeout=0 in grub.cfg
2. try to interrupt boot by holding shift

Comment 1 Mads Kiilerich 2012-04-17 23:09:01 UTC
The grub.cfg generated by the grub2-mkconfig shell script from a-very-hot-place do not use any modifier detection.

It is possible to use http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#keystatus to implement it.

If you manually edit grub.cfg in such a way that other manual changes are necessary then you are on your own.

Instead I would recommend /etc/default/grub with something like
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true

- but you are right, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Grub2 is still not at 100%, and Fedora grub2 do still not give a user experience that matches grub legacy.

Comment 2 Mads Kiilerich 2012-11-16 14:27:44 UTC
On my custom live usb I now replace
  set timeout=...
with
  if keystatus --ctrl
  then set timeout=-1
  else set timeout=0
  fi

That gives a quiet instant boot unless I press ctrl.

IMO that is a nice fit for EFI systems with a boot menu in the firmware.

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Comment 5 Kamil Páral 2015-01-13 14:08:42 UTC
I tried it with Fedora 21, and on my system pressing or holding the modifier keys during boot is not fully reliable. Still, it would be nice if grub supported this, so that interested users could easily configure it (in /etc/default/grub, not in the final grub2.cfg file, which should not be modified by hand, because it gets overwritten).

Comment 6 Hans de Goede 2018-09-03 08:55:50 UTC
Grub in F29+ supports holding shift down during boot to show the boot-menu (when it is hidden), closing this.