Bug 86098
Summary: | xhcat's standard word replacements should protect Red Hat Trademarks | ||
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Product: | [Retired] Red Hat Public Beta | Reporter: | Seth Vidal <skvidal> |
Component: | xchat | Assignee: | Mike A. Harris <mharris> |
Status: | CLOSED WONTFIX | QA Contact: | |
Severity: | medium | Docs Contact: | |
Priority: | low | ||
Version: | phoebe | CC: | mitr |
Target Milestone: | --- | Keywords: | FutureFeature |
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Hardware: | All | ||
OS: | Linux | ||
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Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Enhancement | |
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Last Closed: | 2003-04-03 13:50:12 UTC | Type: | --- |
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Description
Seth Vidal
2003-03-13 21:39:19 UTC
I've already thought about these types of replacements in xchat myself: rhl == Red Hat Linux rh == Red Hat redhat == Red Hat rhl8 == Red Hat Linux 8.0 rhn == Red Hat Network My own xchat does these already. I would add them in a heartbeat, but I have 2 concerns first: 1) Will they end up annoying people, and doing more harm than good 2) Will some people look at this type of a change as some sort of lame "Red Hat is evil like Microsoft" negative thing and complain that xchat should just do what the default xchat comes with. Personally, I think making the change would be nice, because it is annoying to me seeing people mistype these things all the time and abbreviate them poorly, etc. It would certainly help cut down on that. It ultimately boils down to wether the change would do more good than bad, and how people would perceive it once they start encountering it. While that is hard to guess, it is theoretically at least something I could experiment with when the next development cycle opens up. I could patch xchat with these changes and see how people react. I'm sure there will be both good and bad reactions. I'll also have to see what other Red Hat people think about this before I consider adding it into future rawhide though. I'll keep you posted. Looking at the bug summary line, perhaps we should add a similar feature to bugzilla: xhcat -> xchat /me *runs* I'd also suggest doing s/r*h*8.1/no, we might call it 9.0 or 314.15 or XP./ I see how it is, I try to help protect Red Hat's Trademarks and I get typo abuse. and remember it could be Red Hat Linux - Electric Boogaloo. ;) Don't get me wrong... ;o) Of course we must protect our trademarks, and of course we want people to spell our trademarked names properly, etc. But someone misspelling "Red Hat" as "redhat" in IRC isn't exactly breaking the law. ;o) As a Red Hat employee, it irritates me to see people not properly spell "Red Hat", and "Red Hat Linux", "Red Hat Linux 8.0", etc. and also the one that Luis points out above too. ;o) I correct people in IRC all the time of course, but they're not exactly breaking the law. ;o) Here's a summary of the upside of adding this enhancement: 1) It allows Red Hat employees, as well as our users to be able to abbreviate what they type, rather than typing out the full blown blah blah blah every time it is typed, just to be pedantically correct (and yes, I am one of those pedantic people now, having been brainwashed^W trained well by msw) <grin> 2) It would help to turn ambiguous acronyms into their proper meanings 3) It would make the Red Hat branding more visible 4) It would help to stop people from driving us nuts (both Red Hatters, as well as other people who get annoyed by seeing things like "RH8") by abbreviating things all the time, and making up their own wrong/broken spellings, etc. 5) Some users would likely welcome the change, as it would allow them to type the abbreviated names, etc. but get the full blown proper names intended. Downsides: 1) It would likely surprise some users, and perhaps irritate them that the software is doing something automatically for them, which they never asked it to do. 2) Some people would probably construe this as some evil Red Hat masterplan to take over the world 3) It would likely boost Slashdot's banner ad revenue stream. 4) It would not "protect" anything. In short, it would be both a convenience to people like myself, you, and other people who feel the same way. It would cut down on the number of people who annoy us all by mistyping and/or abbreviating things. It would likely annoy a lot of people however who want to just see exactly what they type. I asked some people in IRC on #redhat what they thought about it, and so far both internal Red Hat feedback from developers as well as public feedback from #redhat is leaning towards this not being a good idea (as much as i would LOVE to add it). ;o) I'll ask the channel to look at this again when the channel is full tomorrow to get some more opinions. Actually, I missed the "protect Red Hat Trademarks" part of the summary and just caught that right now. I disagree with that part. If xchat does corrections, it should just be to correct annoyances, not for trademark reasons. Whoa. Bugzilla is screwed up. It mid-air-collisioned me, and ended up putting the comments in the wrong order. The last comment was written prior to the last 2 comments from you guys. ;o) Add to the downsides: 5) Wasting screen space and having to read and {visually, mentally} parse "Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS" instead of just a simple, short unambiguous (and hopefully correct) abbreviation. BTW: Which one is it here? RHELAS? You forgot to close the </sarcasm> tag. There is a universal sentiment by both Red Hat Linux users, and employees of Red Hat that this suggestion would not be received well, is not wanted, and that it does not "protect" anything. After much thought and consideration, I believe they are right, and I will not implement this request (as much as I would like to). ;o) Closing WONTFIX |