Bug 1011746 - RFE/MSG: improve "Flushing journal to Persistent Storage" message with Storage=volatile
Summary: RFE/MSG: improve "Flushing journal to Persistent Storage" message with Storag...
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Status: CLOSED CANTFIX
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Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: systemd
Version: rawhide
Hardware: Unspecified
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Assignee: systemd-maint
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Reported: 2013-09-25 03:56 UTC by Chris Murphy
Modified: 2019-10-21 18:22 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2019-10-21 18:22:50 UTC
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Description Chris Murphy 2013-09-25 03:56:37 UTC
Description of problem: When journald.conf has Storage=volatile and the system is rebooted, systemd still reports flushing to persistent storage.


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
systemd-206-11.fc20.x86_64

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. /etc/systemd/journald.conf, set #Storage=volatile and remove #.
2. Reboot

Actual results:

[root@f20s journal]# journalctl -b | grep -i journal
Sep 24 21:43:59 f20s.localdomain systemd-journal[82]: Runtime journal is using 708.0K (max 197.5M, leaving 296.3M of free 1.9G, current limit 197.5M).
Sep 24 21:43:59 f20s.localdomain systemd-journal[82]: Runtime journal is using 712.0K (max 197.5M, leaving 296.3M of free 1.9G, current limit 197.5M).
Sep 24 21:43:59 f20s.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting Journal Socket.
Sep 24 21:43:59 f20s.localdomain systemd[1]: Listening on Journal Socket.
Sep 24 21:43:59 f20s.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting Journal Service...
Sep 24 21:43:59 f20s.localdomain systemd-journal[82]: Journal started
Sep 24 21:43:59 f20s.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Journal Service.
Sep 24 21:44:01 f20s.localdomain [82]: Journal stopped
Sep 24 21:44:05 f20s.localdomain systemd-journal[211]: Runtime journal is using 1.5M (max 197.5M, leaving 296.3M of free 1.9G, current limit 197.5M).
Sep 24 21:44:05 f20s.localdomain systemd-journald[82]: Received SIGTERM
Sep 24 21:44:05 f20s.localdomain systemd-journal[211]: Journal started
Sep 24 21:44:10 f20s.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage...
Sep 24 21:44:10 f20s.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage.

Expected results:
Report flushing of journal to volatile storage

Additional info:

[root@f20s journal]# ll /var/log/journal/
total 0

[root@f20s journal]# journalctl --verify
PASS: /run/log/journal/8e4cbfea404512ae70096c6202c9a3bf/system.journal                                                                                                                        


The journal does appear to be in volatile storage, not persisent. Uncertain if this is a regression.

Comment 1 Michal Schmidt 2013-09-25 09:34:22 UTC
"Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage" is the description of systemd-journal-flush.service. This service gets started regardless of what's in journald.conf. All it does is it sends SIGUSR1 to systemd-journald. systemd-journald will simply ignore this signal if "Storage=volatile" is configured.

It is true that starting systemd-journal-flush.service is pointless when "Storage=volatile" is used, but it causes no harm.

Possible solutions to clear up the confusion:
1. Rephrase the service's description somehow. "Notify journald About Availability Of Persistent Storage"? Would you consider that an improvement?
2. Add a generator to parse journald.conf and pull systemd-journald-flush.service into the boot transaction only if persistent storage is enabled. This would work, but I don't like this. It means additional code and the overhead of the generator is comparable to the overhead of starting the service needlessly.

Comment 2 Chris Murphy 2013-09-27 16:08:38 UTC
Thanks for the response. This bug is more user confusion than an actual bug, and is more an RFE and figuring out what that would be.

The suggestion is definitely an improvement. It makes it a true statement of fact.

While troubleshooting something else, I needed to redirect the log elsewhere and this message seemed like a statement of fact, no matter what I changed in journald.conf, until I learned it wasn't saying what I thought it was saying.

I also thought about journalctl having a way to show where the current logs are being written, reported by --disk-usage. Synonyms for this might be --usage and --status. So all of those would return what --disk-usage does now, but also includes the path to journals. To make it REALLY obvious, the returned information could even say persistent vs volatile. e.g.


[root@local ~]# journalctl --usage/status/disk-usage
Journals take up 12.0M on persistent storage at /var/log/journal

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Comment 5 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 2019-10-21 18:22:50 UTC
I can't come up with a wording that would be conside but avoid this ambiguity. If you have a good
solution, please reopen.


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