Bug 1024201 - can't find input methods like Marathi - Inscript or itrans in the installer
can't find input methods like Marathi - Inscript or itrans in the installer
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: langtable (Show other bugs)
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Assigned To: Anaconda Maintenance Team
Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Reported: 2013-10-29 02:31 EDT by anish
Modified: 2015-06-29 08:45 EDT (History)
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2013-10-29 02:31 EDT, anish
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ubuntu-12.10-left-ubuntu-13.10-right.png (676.47 KB, image/png)
2013-10-30 12:12 EDT, Mike FABIAN
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Description anish 2013-10-29 02:31:00 EDT
Created attachment 816973 [details]
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Description of problem:
I am installing Fedora 20 beta from live CD and in select language menu i can't find Marathi inscript or itrans layout.
I could find only phonetic, please find screen shot attached 

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Fedora 20 TC-6 beta

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Click on installer 
2. Select Marathi language 
3. In language selection try to find marathi input methods such as intrans or inscript 

Expected results:
Marathi input methods should get listed 

Additional info:
Comment 1 Mike FABIAN 2013-10-29 11:18:02 EDT
The installer doesn’t yet support input methods at all, only keyboard layouts.

The "phonetic" seen in the screen shot attached to comment#0 is also
a keyboard layout, not an input method:

[mfabian@Fedora-20-Beta-TC6-x86_64-netins ~]$ grep Marathi /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/in
//     - Devanagari (Hindi, Marathi, Sanskrit)
// Brief:       Devanagari layout (Hindi, Sanskrit, Nepali, Marathi, etc.)
// Marathi uses Devanagari layout of Hindi
  name[Group1] = "Marathi (KaGaPa phonetic)";
[mfabian@Fedora-20-Beta-TC6-x86_64-netins ~]$ grep Marathi /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/in
Comment 2 Mike FABIAN 2013-10-29 11:22:44 EDT
So this is not a langtable problem, at least not yet.

In the long run, the installer should support input methods of course
so that also users of Chinese or Japanese could edit information
like their real names using their native script.

When I test installed ubuntu-12.10 a while ago, I saw that their installer
does seem to try to support input methods, although it didn’t seem to work.

In the long run, support for input methods should be added to anaconda.

Not sure what to do now with this bug. Maybe back to anaconda ...
Comment 3 Mike FABIAN 2013-10-30 12:12:05 EDT
Created attachment 817506 [details]

Ubuntu does not seem to support input methods during the installation either.

The left side of this screenshot is from the installation
of ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso, the right side from
the installation of ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso.

The screen during the installation where the real user name can be
entered is shown in both screen shots.  That is the only place where I
can imagine an input method might have some use during the
installation. For example a Japanese user could write his name
correctly written in Japanes characters into the field for the "real
name" (not the login name).

One can see that in ubuntu 12.10, there were 2 keyboard icons on the
top, one of them is for ibus. Right clicking that one can show the
“about” message of ibus and also open the setup tool and add input
methods.  Only 2 Chinese input methods are selectable, one of them is
“Pinyin”. But even after selecting that and clicking the right mouse
button on the name entry field and selecting

    Input Methods -> IBus (Intelligent input Bus)

from the context menu, Chinese input still does not work.
Restarting ibus (from the context menu of the keyboard icon in the panel
at the top) does not help either.

In ubuntu 13.10, there is no keyboard icon at the top, ibus seems
not to be running at all. One can still open the context menu
of the name entry field, but selecting ibus there of course does not
achieve anything.

So this looks like Ubuntu does not support input methods during the
installation either at the moment.

I am not sure whether the running ibus in 12.10 was a failed attempt
to use input methods during the installation or an error.
Comment 4 Mike FABIAN 2013-10-30 12:21:45 EDT
Although input method support during the installation might be an
interesting feature, its real usefulness is quite small, I think.

What else could it be useful for except for entering the real
user name in a script which requires an input method?

There is not much opportunity to enter text in one’s native language
during the installation, most stuff one enters there has to be ASCII
anyway like the login name or mount points.
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