Bug 1031374 - `yum update` should give reasoning for installing new packages
`yum update` should give reasoning for installing new packages
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: yum (Show other bugs)
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Reported: 2013-11-17 07:47 EST by Jonas Wielicki
Modified: 2015-02-17 14:16 EST (History)
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output of yum update --assumeno (244.46 KB, text/plain)
2013-11-17 07:47 EST, Jonas Wielicki
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Description Jonas Wielicki 2013-11-17 07:47:43 EST
Created attachment 825133 [details]
output of yum update --assumeno

Description of problem:
Running yum update currently will install lots of new packages on my system. I update regularily, every two or three days. The only change I did to my package system since the last update was `yum groups mark convert`, which yum suggested to me when I ran `yum grouplist` for other reasons.

This marked some groups as installed, and I guess that this is why new packages will now be installed, to resync the groups package list with my installed packages. It's all wild guessing though, because yum does not give any rationale on /why/ the new packages are installed (see attached yum output).

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How reproducible:
Always now that it is triggered.

Steps to Reproduce:
This is only wild guessing, because I do not know the exact reason.
1. (I guess) fedup your system some times so that group info is not consistent
2. yum groups mark convert
3. yum update

Actual results:
`yum update` installs 632 packages without giving a reason.

Expected results:
`yum update` should print a reason for the newly installed packages.

Additional info:
I took a snapshot of my /var/lib/yum and I'll delay the update for some more days in case you need more information.
Comment 1 Jonas Wielicki 2013-11-19 08:38:54 EST
I have by now verified, the installing of “random” packages vanishes if I clear the installed groups file (/var/lib/yum/groups).

I was able to reproduce it with a clean install of fedora 19 with the following steps:

1. Install fedora 19 (minimal)
2. run yum group mark convert
3. yum update
Comment 2 Adam Williamson 2013-12-15 05:04:30 EST
Filed #1043237 for 'group mark convert' being far too aggressive, which is related to this, but I think it's also a good idea for yum to be more clear about *why* it's installing additional packages, indeed.
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