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Description of problem:
During X activity (scrolling browser windows, moving windows in KDE, switching
between virtual desktops) the system will freeze completely (no
keyboard/mouse/video, Magic Sysreq doesn't do a thing, can't ping).
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)
(prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: IBM ThinkPad T20
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 64 (1000ns min, 63750ns max), cache line size 08
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128M]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities:  AGP version 1.0
Status: RQ=31 SBA+ 64bit- FW- Rate=x1,x2
Command: RQ=0 SBA- AGP- 64bit- FW- Rate=<none>
The XF86Config file contains:
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "S3 Savage/IX"
(please email if you need the full file).
I am reasonably certain that it is not a hardware problem since I can run
non-interactive processes that consume memory and CPU for hours without problem
on both RH9 and a dual-boot Win2KPRO. These apps include POVRAY, DVDRIP and
various short but intensive C math applications. The machine can be otherwise
idle but doing something innocuous such as scrolling down a web page in either
Mozilla or Konqueror will cause the lockup.
I've disabled the SpeedStep and power saving features in the BIOS. This hang
occurs with both the stock updated kernel (2.4.20-20.9) and a custom kernel no
other changes but the CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS set (it is unset in the default kernel).
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Boot in runlevel 5 and login
2. Open X application such as Konqueror and load long page
3. Quickly scroll through document, switch desktops, etc..
Actual Results: Machine completely froze - unable to ping, Magic SysReq
ignored, serial console dead, CTL-ALT-DEL does nothing, no screen updates, no HD
Expected Results: Machine should continue as normal.
Possibly related bugs: 28526 42592
Hardware: 1024x768 display, 16-bit color.
It appears to be something with the S3 driver itself. Running "x11perf -all"
using the S3 driver locks the machine within a few minutes the first three times
that I tried. I've so far been running x11perf under the VESA driver for a
couple hours now and it's still going.
Try using Option "noaccel" in the driver section. Report back if that
works around the issue temporarily. If so, comment out the noaccel option
and try the various XaaNo... options listed on the XF86Config manpage to
try to find the troublesome XAA primitive that is presumeably causing the
If you can isolate it, we might be able to fix it or work around it in
Yup, noaccel allowed the x11perf tests to complete. Trying the XaaNo.. options
now. This may take a while :D.
Some more info:
Adding all the XaaNo options allows the tests to run to completion reliably (3
complete tests of 1 repetition each).
Commenting 'Option "XaaNoSolidBresenhamLine"' in my XF86Config definitely causes
x11perf to fail. Unfortunately, it appears that there's at least one more Xaa
accel that's problematic.
I tried adding half the options and disabling half then running the test. It
failed so I reversed which ones were enabled. Still failed. Thinking it would
save time, I uncommented out all the XaaNo options and then tried commenting
them indidually. I could reliably complete the tests with the following Options
not enabled (i.e., the accel was enabled):
# Option "XaaNoSolidFillRect"
# Option "XaaNoSolidFillTrap"
# Option "XaaNoSolidHorVertLine"
# Option "XaaNoSolidTwoPointLine"
If I then comment out 'Option "XaaNoSolidBresenhamLine"' and disable all the
other accelerations the test failed consistently (complete lockup). Problem is
that if I enable all the rest of the accelerations but disable
SolidBresenhamLine the test still fails. This will probably take another day or
so to determine which other accel is causing the hang. On top of this, x11perf
does not seem to fail in the same place each time.
So far I've not been doing a complete reboot between successful tests, only
dropping to init 3 then back to init 5.
I hope that sounds clearer to you :D
Ok, once you've narrowed down the specific options needed for stability,
I'll investigate having it default to being disabled for that specific
OK, I believe that I've narrowed it down to this list of required NoXaa options:
Without these, "x11perf -all -repeat 1" will always fail. With these options it
seems completely stable. I've been running this configuration, launching several
x11perf sessions, dropping back and forth between the console and X, scrolling
windows, and generally just using X for two days now without any problems.
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