Bug 1073393 - There is no update notifier for Xfce4.
Summary: There is no update notifier for Xfce4.
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Status: CLOSED EOL
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: xfce4-panel
Version: 20
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
unspecified
low
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Kevin Fenzi
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2014-03-06 10:49 UTC by le.dahut
Modified: 2015-06-29 19:18 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2015-06-29 19:18:33 UTC
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Description le.dahut 2014-03-06 10:49:55 UTC
Description of problem:

There is no update notifier for Xfce4.
An update notifier is an icon that stays in taskbar (notification area) and which warns the user when updates are available. The user then just has to click on the icon to see the list of available packages to update and click "update" or "cancel".
Gnome or Kde provides one.

I've marked this bug as "high" because this leads users to not update their system and thus not get security fixes !

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
has never existed in Fedora as far as I know.

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Comment 1 Mukundan Ragavan 2014-03-06 14:34:32 UTC
I am unaware of an update notifier provided by upstream. That could be because Xfce does not have a system update utility that's specific for the DE - unlike GNOME and KDE.

Comment 2 le.dahut 2014-03-06 16:56:48 UTC
Update notifier is distribution-dependent, Xfce should write one for every distribution.

How about Gnome and Kde, do they provide their own notifier or is it a Fedora/Redhat creation ?

Debian/Ubuntu provide one so I suppose it is possible to make one for Fedora.

Comment 3 Mukundan Ragavan 2014-03-06 17:07:51 UTC
(In reply to le.dahut from comment #2)
> Update notifier is distribution-dependent, Xfce should write one for every
> distribution.
> 

This would make it a upstream feature request. No?

> How about Gnome and Kde, do they provide their own notifier or is it a
> Fedora/Redhat creation ?

GNOME and KDE have their own notification. Xfce also does - xfce4-notifyd. The difference is GNOME and KDE also have apps that handle updates. I forgot the name in the case of GNOME, but I think for KDE it's apper. These apps look for updates and pass the notification part to their notification components.

 
> Debian/Ubuntu provide one so I suppose it is possible to make one for Fedora.

Debian, as far as I know, uses GNOME's notification daemon.

Other than this I am not, at the moment, what else to say ...

Comment 4 le.dahut 2014-03-06 17:24:46 UTC
I've submitted the bug in Xfce's bugzilla :
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10732

Debian/Ubuntu use their own system :
https://packages.debian.org/en/wheezy/update-notifier

Comment 5 Kevin Fenzi 2014-03-06 17:36:36 UTC
So, a bit of history here: 

We used to use PackageKit for this. It had a systray applet and could indicate when updates were available. However, gnome no longer uses systray, so PackageKit dropped that support. 

There is a applet someone was working on a few years ago to do a systray notifier: 

https://github.com/kirsle/.dotfiles/blob/master/home/bin/pyupdatesd

It wasn't ever up to the point of packaging, but we could try and look at moving it that way. 

Finally, there's nothing saying we have to provide an updates notifier. Most folks using Xfce use yum to update from the command line when they choose, or yumex.

I doubt upstream will be interested in making an applet, since it's going to vary by OS a good deal. If you would like to help on the pyupdatesd, please join the fedora xfce list to discuss: 

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce

Thanks.

Comment 6 le.dahut 2014-03-10 08:57:56 UTC
I've submitted the bug in Xfce's bugzilla and they answer that it is distro-specific sur Redhat/Fedora must implement it.
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10732

I re-open the bug.

Comment 7 Kevin Fenzi 2014-03-10 16:11:55 UTC
Well, feel free to reopen, but thats not going to magically make something be created. :) 

As I noted in comment 5 the best way forward is likely for interested parties to take pyupdatesd, get it working and cleaned up and packaged and submit it for review. The place to coordinate this would be the fedora Xfce list, not here.

Comment 8 Christoph Wickert 2014-03-10 18:07:22 UTC
Changing priority to "low" as per definition, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity

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