Bug 1131487 - Organizational entity already exists with [GroupImpl:'manager'] id, please check that there is no group and user with same id
Summary: Organizational entity already exists with [GroupImpl:'manager'] id, please ch...
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Status: CLOSED EOL
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Product: JBoss BRMS Platform 6
Classification: Retired
Component: Documentation
Version: 6.0.2
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
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Target Milestone: CR1
: One-off release
Assignee: brms-docs@redhat.com
QA Contact: Lukáš Petrovický
Dawn Eisner
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Reported: 2014-08-19 11:58 UTC by Amana
Modified: 2020-03-27 20:03 UTC (History)
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Build Name: 22697, Installation Guide-6.0-1 Build Date: 30-06-2014 16:47:31 Topic ID: 26763-675712 [Latest]
Last Closed: 2020-03-27 20:03:41 UTC
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Red Hat Bugzilla 1049649 0 high CLOSED JBoss BPMS New Task dialog does not work 2021-02-22 00:41:40 UTC

Description Amana 2014-08-19 11:58:35 UTC
Title: Defining Roles

Describe the issue:

"Organizational entity already exists with [GroupImpl:'manager'] id, please check that there is no group and user with same id"

This message is expected as a user shouldn't belong to a group with the same name as it's user name/login , e.g. user as admin and group as admin . It is explained in this Bugzilla [1]. So it would be good to add to the doc this information, so that users will not create users/groups using the same names.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049649


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Comment 3 Vikram Goyal 2015-02-12 06:46:48 UTC
Thanks Amana.

This has been added as a note in the Creating Users section and can be verified here [1] in the BRMS Getting Started Guide.

The same content is used in the BPM Suite GSG and the Installation Guides for both the products.

Moving this to ON_QA for a 6.1 release.

[1] http://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BRMS/6.1/html-single/Getting_Started_Guide/index.html#Creating_the_users

Comment 4 Zuzana Krejčová 2015-03-19 14:22:51 UTC
BRMS:
1) Getting Started Guide
 - installing on EWS - Procedure 2.1. step 9 should:
   A) either point to Chapters 2.3 and 2.4, which then shouldn't be written for EAP only...
   B) or contain the same information as in Chapters 2.3 and 2.4 and Chapters 2.3 and 2.4 should fall under chapter 2.2 Installing ... Enterprise Application Platform.
2) WAS installation guide
 - should also contain this note in Chapter 3.2 or poit to the relevant chapter in Installation Guide.
3) Installation Guide
 - Chapter 1.5 (installation via the installer) should point to Chapter 1.11, 
 - Chapter 1.8 (installation on EWS) should point to Chapter 1.11, 
 - Figure 1.2 (installer gui) should take that into account and not display user 'admin'.
4) Weblogic installation guide
 - same as for BRMS - WAS guide

BPMS
5) Getting Started Guide
 - Chapter 2.1.4 on creating user for EAP installation is completely missing this note.
 - Chapter 2.2.2.2 on installation on EWS is completely missing this note.
6) WAS installation guide
 - same as for BRMS - WAS guide
7) Weblogic installation guide
 - same as for BRMS - WAS guide
8) Installation Guide
 - Chapter 2.1.2 (installation via the installer) should point to Chapter 4.2, 
 - Chapter 2.2.2.2 (installation on EWS) should point to Chapter 4.2, 
 - Figure 2.2 (installer gui) should take that into account and not display user 'admin'.

Comment 5 Vikram Goyal 2015-03-26 06:13:36 UTC
Thanks Zuzana.

I think these issues have arisen because I thought that this is an issue on only EAP. Back on to ON_QA.

BRMS:

1) GSG:

I have updated Procedure 2.1, Step 9 to include the info about this issue [1]. I have also linked to a list of defined roles section, which I believe is not container specific. This avoids us moving these sections around for this guide at this stage.

2) WAS Installation Guide:

Updated Chapter 3.2 in the section on adding users to include this note [2].

3) Installation Guide:

-- Changes made in section 1.5 to add a note and link to the define roles section [3].

-- Waiting on CR1 to take updated screenshots (so the screenshot still shows admin in the username field).

-- added note and linked to defining roles section.

4) WebLogic Guide.

Updated to include the note [4].

BPM Suite:

1) GSG:

Sorry, that guide hasn't been built since early Jan. I have just rebuilt it and the content can be verified in it here [5] and here [6].

2) Content is shared with BRMS Guide. Please use that link to verify.

3) Content is shared with BPM Suite Guide. Please use that link to verify.

4) 

Installation Guide:
Same changes as the BRMS Guide. [7]


[1] https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BRMS/6.1/html-single/Getting_Started_Guide/index.html#Installing_JBoss_BRMS_on_JBoss_EWS_2

[2] https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BRMS/6.1/html-single/IBM_WebSphere_Installation_and_Configuration_Guide/#Modify_Security_settings

[3] https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BRMS/6.1/html-single/Installation_Guide/#Installing_Red_Hat_JBoss_BRMSBPM_Suite_using_the_Installer

[4] https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BRMS/6.1/html-single/Oracle_Weblogic_Installation_and_Configuration_Guide/#Configuring_Security_Settings

[5] https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BPM_Suite/6.1/html-single/Getting_Started_Guide/#Creating_the_users

[6] https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BPM_Suite/6.1/html-single/Getting_Started_Guide/#sect-Installing_the_generic_deployable_package

[7] https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BPM_Suite/6.1/html-single/Installation_Guide/#Installing_Red_Hat_JBoss_BRMSBPM_Suite_using_the_Installer 
and
https://documentation-devel.engineering.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_BPM_Suite/6.1/html-single/Installation_Guide/#Setting_up_Business_Central

Comment 6 Zuzana Krejčová 2015-04-01 11:49:03 UTC
You mix two things that are similar but not exactly the same - roles and groups. They are both set up the same way but their use is slightly different.
Roles are groups as well, just special, because they are used for access control. They may (I think) be used for task assignments as well (but, as far as I remember, shouldn't be). The roles are predefined.
Groups are simply used for task assignments.

No username should conflict with any of the groups - not just with (predefined) roles.

(Note: this terminology is slightly BRMS/BPMS specific - e.g. EWS/JWS configuration file, tomcat-users.xml, uses element 'role' for both.)

Please fix the notes and instructions to reflect that.


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