Bug 1134142 - After ntfsresize is used, Windows 8.1 chkdsk doesn't clear the dirty bit
Summary: After ntfsresize is used, Windows 8.1 chkdsk doesn't clear the dirty bit
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Status: CLOSED EOL
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: ntfs-3g
Version: 21
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
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Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Tom "spot" Callaway
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2014-08-27 00:41 UTC by Chris Murphy
Modified: 2015-12-02 16:13 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2015-12-02 03:32:05 UTC
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Description Chris Murphy 2014-08-27 00:41:16 UTC
Short description: After ntfsresize of a Windows 8.1 volume, Windows 8.1 doesn't automatically repair the resized volume like Windows 7 does. And ntfsresize continues to suggest chkdsk needs to be used. Manually running Windows 8.1 Startup Repair or chkdsk /f fixes the problem.


Concern is mainly for GUI installers leveraging ntfsresize. They don't inform the user they need to manually run either chkdsk /f or run startup repair.




Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
ntfs-3g-2014.2.15-4.fc21.x86_64

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Default Windows 8.1 installation
2. Boot Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-20140826.iso
3. Check the partition map with fdisk -l
Device     Boot  Start       End   Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *      2048    718847    716800  350M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2       718848 178255871 177537024 84.7G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

4. Determine that the filesystem state is OK prior to the resize attempt; confirm 177537024 sectors from fdisk equals "current device size" of 90898956288 bytes from ntfsresize.
# ntfsresize -c /dev/sda2
# ntfsresize -i /dev/sda2
ntfsresize v2014.2.15 (libntfs-3g)
Device name        : /dev/sda2
NTFS volume version: 3.1
Cluster size       : 4096 bytes
Current volume size: 90898952704 bytes (90899 MB)
Current device size: 90898956288 bytes (90899 MB)
Checking filesystem consistency ...
100.00 percent completed
Accounting clusters ...
Space in use       : 9296 MB (10.2%)
Collecting resizing constraints ...
You might resize at 9295036416 bytes or 9296 MB (freeing 81603 MB).
Please make a test run using both the -n and -s options before real resizing!
# ntfsfix -n /dev/sda2
Mounting volume... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Checking the alternate boot sector... OK
NTFS volume version is 3.1.
NTFS partition /dev/sda2 was processed successfully.

4. After a dry run with -n -s, actually do the resize.
# ntfsresize -s 45G /dev/sda2
ntfsresize v2014.2.15 (libntfs-3g)
Device name        : /dev/sda2
NTFS volume version: 3.1
Cluster size       : 4096 bytes
Current volume size: 90898952704 bytes (90899 MB)
Current device size: 90898956288 bytes (90899 MB)
New volume size    : 45000000000 bytes (45000 MB)
Checking filesystem consistency ...
100.00 percent completed
Accounting clusters ...
Space in use       : 9296 MB (10.2%)
Collecting resizing constraints ...
Needed relocations : 0 (0 MB)
WARNING: Every sanity check passed and only the dangerous operations left.
Make sure that important data has been backed up! Power outage or computer
crash may result major data loss!
Are you sure you want to proceed (y/[n])? y
Schedule chkdsk for NTFS consistency check at Windows boot time ...
Resetting $LogFile ... (this might take a while)
Updating $BadClust file ...
Updating $Bitmap file ...
Updating Boot record ...
Syncing device ...
Successfully resized NTFS on device '/dev/sda2'.
You can go on to shrink the device for example with Linux fdisk.
IMPORTANT: When recreating the partition, make sure that you
  1)  create it at the same disk sector (use sector as the unit!)
  2)  create it with the same partition type (usually 7, HPFS/NTFS)
  3)  do not make it smaller than the new NTFS filesystem size
  4)  set the bootable flag for the partition if it existed before
Otherwise you won't be able to access NTFS or can't boot from the disk!
If you make a mistake and don't have a partition table backup then you
can recover the partition table by TestDisk or Parted's rescue mode.

5. Get info on the volume
# ntfsresize -i /dev/sda2
ntfsresize v2014.2.15 (libntfs-3g)
ERROR: Volume is scheduled for check.
Run chkdsk /f and please try again, or see option -f.
# ntfsfix -n /dev/sda2
Mounting volume... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Checking the alternate boot sector... BAD
Error: Failed to fix the alternate boot sector


6. Use fdisk to set the partition to match volume size.
/dev/sda2       718848 88610815 87891968 41.9G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

7. Same ntfsresize and ntfsfix results at this point. Reboot Windows8. No automatic repair occurs (like Windows 7) or file system errors reported. I do get to the desktop. Reboot again, same result.

8. Reboot Fedora Live install media
# ntfsresize -i /dev/sda2
ntfsresize v2014.2.15 (libntfs-3g)
ERROR: Volume is scheduled for check.
Run chkdsk /f and please try again, or see option -f.
# ntfsfix -n /dev/sda2
Mounting volume... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Checking the alternate boot sector... OK
NTFS volume version is 3.1.
NTFS partition /dev/sda2 was processed successfully.



Actual results:

Windows 8 doesn't see a problem on its own when starting up after an ntfsresize. But ntfsresize itself sees the volume check flag still set and spits out an error. A manual repair by Windows resolves the problem.


Expected results:

Windows 8 clears the volume check flag. 

The question is, does ntfsresize set the correct flag on Window 8 NTFS volumes? (Is it possible there's a new one that differs from Windows 7?) If it's not cleared is there any harm down the road? Or must the user be vigilantly informed in GUI programs that they need to manually intervene and chkdsk /f?



Additional info:

Comment 1 Jean-Pierre André 2014-08-27 07:09:17 UTC
"The question is, does ntfsresize set the correct flag on Window 8 NTFS volumes? (Is it possible there's a new one that differs from Windows 7?)"
Possible, but unlikely. Windows 8 just cannot imagine a flag could pop out of nowhere.
"If it's not cleared is there any harm down the road?"
No danger related to the flag being set. The danger stems from the resizing, so doing a chkdsk is a safety measure. For example, a backup boot sector should be copied to the last sector of the resized partition, but if an approximate new partition size is requested (such as in "ntfsresize -s 45G /dev/sda2"), ntfsresize cannot know for sure where the future last sector will be, and this is left for chkdsk to repair.

After the Windows 8 reboot, does "ntfsfix -n" report a bad backup boot sector ? This will show whether chkdsk was run.

The backup boot sector is a minor concern as it is only used when the normal boot sector has been damaged, and this issue can be avoided by telling ntfsresize the exact future size of the partition (a byte count multiple of the sector size), or by starting ntfsfix after the partition is created.

Comment 2 Chris Murphy 2014-08-28 03:51:34 UTC
After Windows 8 reboot, "ntfsfix -n" does not report a bad backup boot sector, but "ntfsresize -i" still sees a volume check flag set.

Windows 7 fixes the backup boot sector, and unsets the volume check flag at the next boot. While Windows 8 only fixes the backup boot sector.

Comment 3 Jean-Pierre André 2014-08-28 10:13:15 UTC
If "ntfsfix -n" reports a bad backup boot sector before the Windows 8 reboot (but after the new partition table has been written), and it does not after the reboot, then Windows 8 has made a check (probably through a minimal chkdsk on the mounted partition) and there is nothing to worry about.

As Windows behavior may change in the future, GUIs should nevertheless recommend starting chkdsk manually.

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