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Bug 1136192 - The possibility to disable bootloader install is hidden (and avoiding to be found when sought)
Summary: The possibility to disable bootloader install is hidden (and avoiding to be f...
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Status: CLOSED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7
Classification: Red Hat
Component: anaconda
Version: 7.1
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
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Target Milestone: rc
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Assignee: Anaconda Maintenance Team
QA Contact: Release Test Team
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Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2014-09-02 06:48 UTC by jiri vanek
Modified: 2014-10-30 18:41 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2014-10-30 18:41:19 UTC
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Description jiri vanek 2014-09-02 06:48:33 UTC 
Grub 2 is not the best to load rhel6 and  rhel5. When one installs rhel7 to machine with rhel5 and/or 6  they will not boot afterwards (and need a lot of tuning to boot at all)

One possibility how to avoid this troubles is to keep grub 1 on machine. However (on first glance)  the possibility to turn off bootloader installation is missing. After personal help from Brno anaconda QA guys, this option was found,

Current behaviour:
The button appears *only* when *no* disk is selected (in install to section) and even once it is visible, it is hiding somewhere deeply low so it easily avoid user's focus. And even if it  is noted by user, its title do not suggest that bootloader turn off is here.


Expected behaviour
 button is still visible
 button is on visible location - eg close to the radio buttons group
 when it is enabled, it have at least tooltip describing what is hidden inside (actually more describing tooltisp in whole gui would be nice)
 when it is disabled, it have tooltitp telling same as when enabled + bold caption (in that tooltip or weherever) how to enable it (unsellecet all disks)

Once clicked, the tabale which appears can be more descriptive to. But I havenever seen more then one item "bootlader" here, so maybe its enough.
Comment 1 Martin Kolman 2014-09-02 10:49:04 UTC 
 > Current behaviour:
> The button appears *only* when *no* disk is selected (in install to section)
I think it is actually the opposite - the button/link it is only shown when one or more disks are selected for installation.

> and even once it is visible, it is hiding somewhere deeply low so it easily
> avoid user's focus. And even if it  is noted by user, its title do not
> suggest that bootloader turn off is here.
But I have to agree with this - it is rather hard to find where to disable bootloader installation.

So I'm CCing Mairin Duffy for any thought on how to improve the current situation.
Comment 2 Chris Lumens 2014-09-03 15:28:29 UTC 
Martin is correct - the link only appears when one or more disks are selected for installation, which is the behavior you would expect.

Tooltips aren't really a great solution for anything, though.  They are not helpful for people who can only use the keyboard.  We can't rely on them to convey important information because of this, which is why we only use them rarely.

Anyway if I choose a disk and then look all over the screen, I see exactly one thing that even mentions a boot loader and that looks like a link that I've seen in web browsers and such, so it seems pretty obvious that it's something you should click on.  Then if I click on it, I get a dialog with the current boot device checked.  There's a button at the bottom allowing toggling this.

About the only thing I can think of to help here is that the row is also sensitive to clicks and allows for toggling bootloader status there.

Remember that what we are trying for here is being useful to a range of people.  Disabling bootloader installation is something that relatively few people are going to want to do.  The greater prominence we give that option, the more cluttered things are going to look for everyone else.  I think we've struck a good balance right now of offering the ability to change bootloader installation without actually making it tough to do.
Comment 3 David Cantrell 2014-10-30 18:41:19 UTC 
Closing per comment #2.
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