Description of problem: The "Weekday"-String and "Month"-String (also the short-forms of the strings) aren't translated. These strings stays in english. I tried to switch to german and afterwards to russian. But these strings remains in english. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): Fedora 21 alpha, LiveCD How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Boot Fedora 21 Alpha LiveCD 2. Change the region setting to another language (e.g. german) 3. logout/login Actual results: all strings are translated to german, but the date in the upper menubar (in the middle) remains the strings for weekday/month in english: Wed., Wednesday, Thursday, ... October, July, ... Expected results: Mit., Mittwoch, Donnerstag, ... Oktober, Juli, ... Additional info:
(In reply to Rolle from comment #0) > Steps to Reproduce: > 1. Boot Fedora 21 Alpha LiveCD > 2. Change the region setting to another language (e.g. german) What are the "Format" settings? I agree it's not obvious, but strings in dates are not subject to the "Language" setting (which controls the LC_MESSAGES environment variable) but the "Format" noe (which controls LC_TIME among others). In any case this is not a gnome-shell issue, reassigning to gnome-control-center.
What do you mean with "Format". The order of weekday, day, month, year? I add a screenshot. Maybe this helps.
Created attachment 947465 [details] Screenshot of the not translated weekday- and month-strings
Created attachment 947663 [details] Region & Language panel (In reply to Rolle from comment #2) > What do you mean with "Format". The order of weekday, day, month, year? No, I'm referring to the corresponding setting in the "Region & Language" panel, screenshot attached. Ordering does play a role though, in that localization encompasses more than mere translations, e.g. in what order are dates written, whether weeks start on Mondays or Sundays, how numbers are represented (1.234,56 vs 1,234.56) etc. There's a number of settings to control these localization aspects, though the GNOME UI only exposes a single "Formats" one in addition to "Language". Usually mixing those settings works quite well (for instance. mixing English language and German number format in "Pi is approximately 3,14159" is only subtly wrong), but dates are often problematic as localization there consists of both order and translated strings. It is just not possible to allow different locales for dates and messages and get it right - you either end up with correct dates that are inconsistent with the overall language (e.g. "Thursday, October 16") or with a date string that is not valid in either language ("Thursday, der 16. October" or "Donnerstag, Oktober 16"). Out of the options we have, I think the first option is the sanest one - it's not what gnome-shell currently implements, so there is a gnome-shell bug after all (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738640). However it would still give you English month/weekday names in an otherwise German interface, so you'll still want to update your formats setting :-)
Created attachment 947833 [details] Fedora 21 alpha, Region-Settings, Not translated weekday, month
Created attachment 947835 [details] Fedora (22 nightly) rawhide 2014-10-13, Region-Settings, Not translated weekday, month
Created attachment 947836 [details] Fedora (22 nightly) rawhide 2014-10-16, Region-Settings, correctly translated weekday, month
> (In reply to Rolle from comment #2) > > What do you mean with "Format". The order of weekday, day, month, year? > > No, I'm referring to the corresponding setting in the "Region & Language" > panel, screenshot attached. So here are some updated infos with a little different behavior: When I switch the "Language" setting (only the "Language" setting, not the "Formats" setting) to german (Deutsch/Deutschland) and I logout/login and then again I go to the "region & language" setting page the "Formats" setting is automatically set to german (Deutschland/Deutsch). But the weekday/month isn't translated. 1. In the "Fedora 21 alpha, LiveCD"-Version: weekday and month not translated (see attachment "Fedora 21 alpha, Region-Settings, Not translated weekday, month") 2. I tried the nightly LiveCD-Version (Fedora 22 rawhide) from 2014-10-13 (3 days ago) this is the same behavious (see attachment "Fedora (22 nightly) rawhide 2014-10-13, Region-Settings, Not translated weekday, month") 3. In nightly LiveCD-Version (Fedora 22 rawhide) from 2014-10-16 (from yesterday) it seems fixed in the first run (see attachment "Fedora (22 nightly) rawhide 2014-10-16, Region-Settings, correctly translated weekday, month"). See the detail in menu bar "Fr" -> this is german, instead of "Fri" -> this is english. But I wanted to do a better screenshot and booted again this LiveCD and now it doesn't work anymore. So maybe it is translated already, but a bug occurs that sometimes it worked and sometimes not? I don't know what I did anymore, when it worked correctly. So a little bit strange.
(In reply to Rolle from comment #8) > So here are some updated infos with a little different behavior: > When [...] I go to the "region & language" setting page the "Formats" > setting is automatically set to german (Deutschland/Deutsch). But the > weekday/month isn't translated. That is a bug then - is the LC_TIME environment variable set when it happens?
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