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Bug 1173278 - Request for systemd --user functionality in RHEL7
Summary: Request for systemd --user functionality in RHEL7
Keywords:
Status: CLOSED CANTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7
Classification: Red Hat
Component: systemd
Version: 7.6
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
medium
medium
Target Milestone: rc
: ---
Assignee: systemd-maint
QA Contact: qe-baseos-daemons
URL:
Whiteboard:
Depends On:
Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2014-12-11 19:57 UTC by jstephen
Modified: 2023-01-05 13:40 UTC (History)
18 users (show)

Fixed In Version:
Doc Type: Enhancement
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Last Closed: 2014-12-12 14:59:36 UTC
Target Upstream Version:
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System ID Private Priority Status Summary Last Updated
Red Hat Knowledge Base (Solution) 1293513 0 None None None 2018-02-01 14:18:38 UTC
Red Hat Knowledge Base (Solution) 3461241 0 None None None 2018-07-06 14:58:36 UTC

Internal Links: 1625332

Description jstephen 2014-12-11 19:57:10 UTC
1. Proposed title of this feature request  
      - Request for systemd --user functionality
      
    2. Who is the customer behind the request?  
    Account: 766954
      
    TAM customer: no  
    SRM customer: no  
    Strategic: no  
      
    3. What is the nature and description of the request?  
      - Request to be able to manage services as a non-root user
      
    4. Why does the customer need this? (List the business requirements here)  
      - Ability to run the application as non-root allows the admin to not to share the root password with application admin.
      
    5. How would the customer like to achieve this? (List the functional requirements here)  
      - Utilize systemd --user functionality, this is broken in RHEL 7 but previous versions of RHEL supported it.
      
    6. For each functional requirement listed, specify how Red Hat and the customer can test to confirm the requirement is successfully implemented.  
      - Within 3 months if possile
      
    7. Is there already an existing RFE upstream or in Red Hat Bugzilla?  
      - N/A
      
    8. Does the customer have any specific timeline dependencies and which release would they like to target (i.e. RHEL5, RHEL6)?  
      - N/A
      
    9. Is the sales team involved in this request and do they have any additional input?  
      - N/A
      
    10. List any affected packages or components.  
      - systemd, dbus
      
    11. Would the customer be able to assist in testing this functionality if implemented?  
      - yes

Comment 1 Lennart Poettering 2014-12-12 14:58:23 UTC
No, "systemd --user" is not fully implemented yet, not even upstream, the D-Bus hookup is incomplete and not thought to the end. THis is not material at all for RHEL7, if we haven't figured out the details upstream yet either.

Sorry, but this is RHEL8 material, not RHEL7 material.

Comment 6 Klaas Demter 2020-07-28 08:30:57 UTC
I have noticed one of the applications we're running uses systemd in userspace and they claim it is supported by Red Hat. What is the official point of view?

https://help.tableau.com/current/server-linux/en-us/systemd_user_service_error.htm "The systemd user service is not used as commonly as the normal systemd process manager. Red Hat disabled the systemd user service in RHEL 7 (and thereby all distros that come from RHEL, like CentOS, Oracle Linux 7, Amazon Linux 2). However, RedHat has assured Tableau that running the systemd user service is supported as long as the service is re-enabled."

See my comment on https://access.redhat.com/solutions/3461241 about how they do it.

Comment 8 libra suzan 2021-10-02 11:29:40 UTC Comment hidden (spam)
Comment 9 kledo5 2022-06-22 09:01:13 UTC Comment hidden (spam)

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