Bug 1226711 - Flag "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" in nautilus options is missing
Summary: Flag "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" in nautilus options is mi...
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Status: CLOSED CURRENTRELEASE
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: nautilus
Version: 22
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
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Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Matthias Clasen
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Whiteboard:
: 1210103 (view as bug list)
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Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2015-05-31 20:47 UTC by Dario Lesca
Modified: 2019-07-24 13:47 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2016-07-05 19:34:01 UTC
Type: Bug
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Missing "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" flag option (14.35 KB, image/png)
2015-05-31 20:47 UTC, Dario Lesca
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System ID Private Priority Status Summary Last Updated
Red Hat Bugzilla 1192903 0 unspecified CLOSED Nautilus/Files: "inculde a Delete command that bypasses Trash" does not work 2021-02-22 00:41:40 UTC

Internal Links: 1192903

Description Dario Lesca 2015-05-31 20:47:47 UTC
Created attachment 1032969 [details]
Missing "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" flag option

Description of problem:


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):


How reproducible:


Steps to Reproduce:
1.open nautilus
2.open preference panel
3.select behavior 
4.into Trash session the flag "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" is go away

Actual results:
flag "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" is go away

Expected results:
flag "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" is present

Additional info:

Comment 1 Branko Grubić 2015-07-05 11:13:22 UTC
*** Bug 1210103 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2 Joel C Ewing 2015-07-09 18:23:26 UTC
This is closely related to Bug 1227946, which has a more colorful descriiption of the pain this dropped feature is causing one user, but which has a much less useful title.

"Move to Trash" and "Delete" Permanently are both highly useful Nautilus action options and both should be supported.  Ideally both might be options that could be set in preferences as enabled or disabled, with either or both enabled. If dropping support for direct permanent deletion in the f22 release of Nautilus was a deliberate act and not unintentional, that was a bad decision that should be reversed. 

"Move to Trash" is a reasonable default for newbies, and a useful option even for experienced users in cases where you are not absolutely 100% certain you would never want the file back.  If a permament delete option is conditionally available, it probably even makes sense to have that disabled by default to protect newbies from themselves.

For intelligent users, there are many cases where being able to manually select a file for immediate "permanent delete" makes a lot of sense and saves effort -- for example,  a deliberate act to recover filesystem space by eliminating 100%-useless large files; or a deliberate act to make it much harder for someone to find files with sensitive data that you no longer need to retain.  

The absence in f22 of the "permanant-delete"-bypassing-Trash option from Nautilus means that to get that desired effect you now have to do additional steps to separately delete the items from Trash, increasing both the work involved and the odds of making an error and omitting an intended step.

Comment 3 Leslie Satenstein 2015-07-25 03:39:23 UTC
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1227946

This one user has many other users (read 1227946.

The command line tool rm   does not have or offer a trash option.
Nautilus should absolutely allow the bypass of the trash bin.

I filed 1227946. 

I and others have switched to nemo. It is what Nautilus was and obsoletes the need for nautilus. I use dropbox and it uses nautilus, otherwise pssft, nautilus would be gone, as being redundant and less functional tool to alternative.


Nautilus is not restored for Fedora23 alpha 1.

Comment 4 Leslie Satenstein 2015-09-24 11:52:15 UTC
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1227946

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1192903


The Nautilus functionality that exists with Fedora 21 should be restored to Fedora 22 and future Fedora versions (example Fedora 23 and Fedora23++).

Comment 5 Leslie Satenstein 2015-10-04 15:42:39 UTC
Please include this corrective in Fedora 23 Nautilus.

The recent versions of Nautlius has removed options that I used so as to avoid Carpal Tunnel problems.

1 Optional direct delete to avoid Trash bin. 
2 Ability to unmount a mounted drive by directly clicking on it's icon image (on the desktop).

The problems occur as pains in the ligaments or the nerves adjacent to the ligaments in the arm. Excessive clicking on the mouse or excessive keyboard clicking with the same key causes it.

The pain can be reduced with iebprofan medication, but it is important to have a Fedora Gnome interface that has shortcuts to reduce the amount of mouse clicks, and finger ligament pain.

What I would like to do is to use the Nautilus from F21 in place of the F22 and F23 versions.

Or at least, port those short cuts forward.

Any clues or advice. ??? Refer also to Bugzilla   1206929

Comment 6 Dario Lesca 2015-10-16 08:54:52 UTC
Solved in Gnome 3.18
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756637#c5

Comment 7 morgan read 2015-12-30 14:13:23 UTC
fyi

Comment 6 seems not true

See new bug for old bug here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760001

Comment 8 Leslie Satenstein 2016-07-05 19:24:55 UTC
Resolved in Fedora 23 and 24.

This bug report can be closed.

Comment 9 Sylvain Petreolle 2016-07-10 10:46:38 UTC
I do not see such an option into Nautilus 3.18.5.

Comment 10 Steeve McCauley 2016-07-10 13:16:22 UTC
Yeah, I see "Delete permanently" in 3.20.1 (F24) but not in 3.18.5 (F23).  I only see the "Move to Trash" option in the latter unless it's a hidden option in 3.18.

Comment 11 Joel C Ewing 2016-07-10 13:56:35 UTC
Even with 3.20.1 under F24, you may still have to enable the option:
Files -> Preferences -> Behavior -> Trash and turn on option to "Show Action to permanently delete files"


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