+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #233762 +++

There's really no point in starting pcscd on systems without smartcard hardware.
It should get started when the hardware is attached, either by HAL callouts or a
udev rule.

--- Additional comment from Ludovic Rousseau on 2007-03-24 16:57:58 EDT ---

That would be a good idea but what would happen to an application waiting for
the first reader to be connected if pcscd is not already running?

--- Additional comment from Bob Relyea on 2007-03-26 14:00:32 EDT ---

It can be started late, but must be started before the first application that
potentially needs it. Tokens can be hot plugged, and some tokens have the
readers built into them, so there is no attached hardware until the token is
plugged in.

If smart card login is not enabled, it can be started after initial login, for
instance.

--- Additional comment from Ludovic Rousseau on 2007-03-27 02:49:47 EDT ---

It looks like Apple is doing something like that.

pcscd is started only when a reader is connected. But an application can do a SCardEstablishContext even 
if pcscd is not started.

I/you/we should have a look at the pcsc-lite implementation by Apple to reuse some ideas.

--- Additional comment from Bug Zapper on 2008-04-03 19:46:43 EDT ---

Based on the date this bug was created, it appears to have been reported
against rawhide during the development of a Fedora release that is no
longer maintained. In order to refocus our efforts as a project we are
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--- Additional comment from Will Woods on 2008-04-04 18:10:42 EDT ---

Still happens in rawhide. It's been a year now. Any progress here?

I seem to recall that we stopped installing pcsc-lite by default in F8
specifically for this reason.



--- Additional comment from Ludovic Rousseau on 2008-04-05 07:32:13 EDT ---

It is a "limitation" of pcsc-lite.

If you want you can install libpcsclite (linked to the application like gdm) and do not install pcscd. pcscd 
can be installed later when needed.

The use of HAL or udev to start pcscd is also a good idea. But that will not work with serial readers (not 
used much nowadays I think).

--- Additional comment from Bob Relyea on 2008-04-07 11:41:20 EDT ---

Ludovic, I think that is fine, since serial readers are not plug and play to
begin with. having one extra step (setting pcscd to always start) in the
instructions seems find to me.

bob

--- Additional comment from Bug Zapper on 2008-05-13 22:41:39 EDT ---

Changing version to '9' as part of upcoming Fedora 9 GA.
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--- Additional comment from Peter Robinson on 2009-06-12 07:30:42 EDT ---

Updating version as i'm pretty sure this is still an issue.

--- Additional comment from Peter Robinson on 2009-08-13 12:46:57 EDT ---

Is this still an issue. I know this was fixed for bluetooth during the F-11 devel cycle. Maybe the same fix can be used here.

--- Additional comment from Bug Zapper on 2009-11-16 02:55:02 EST ---


This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 12 development cycle.
Changing version to '12'.

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--- Additional comment from Peter Robinson on 2009-11-20 05:44:07 EST ---

Any update on this. To have the same capabilities as Bluetooth has in F-12 would be great for both powersaving and loading.

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--- Additional comment from Juha Tuomala on 2011-02-01 02:15:17 EST ---

Still applies to f14.

--- Additional comment from Ludovic Rousseau on 2011-02-01 04:08:56 EST ---

f14 has pcsc-lite-1.6.4-2.fc14 so the auto start mechanism described in http://ludovicrousseau.blogspot.com/2010/09/pcscd-auto-start.html should be available.

It should be a good idea to upgrade f14 to pcsc-lite 1.6.6

--- Additional comment from Will Woods on 2011-02-03 14:52:42 EST ---

1.6.6 is already in F15, so this bug will be solved when F15 comes out either way.

If there are major differences between pcsc-lite 1.6.4 and 1.6.6, it might make more sense to just close this bug with a resolution of NEXTRELEASE.

--- Additional comment from Peter Robinson on 2011-06-11 09:42:51 EDT ---

Fixed in F-15