Description of problem: Would you mind to move the documentation into -doc subpackage? It is weird to have installed js-jquery due to some documentation of python-systemd I definitely don't care about (at least ATM). # dnf update Last metadata expiration check performed 0:40:09 ago on Mon Jul 13 20:03:45 2015. Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Installing: js-jquery noarch 2.1.3-2.fc23 rawhide 164 k python-systemd x86_64 230-1.fc23 rawhide 119 k replacing systemd-python.x86_64 222-1.fc23 web-assets-filesystem noarch 5-3.fc23 rawhide 9.0 k Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Install 3 Packages Total download size: 293 k Installed size: 984 k Is this ok [y/N]:
Can you describe the motivation a bit better? js-jquery is tiny, it's a package with basically one file. python-systemd is so tiny too that splitting out a separate -doc package just doesn't seem worth the trouble. And I think it would be a lost battle: if https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/jQuery is implemented, there will be hundreds of packages depending on js-jsquery, so having it installed would be almost unavoidable anyway.
(In reply to Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek from comment #1) > Can you describe the motivation a bit better? js-jquery is tiny, "tiny" is no excuse for me. It is additional package, additional burden. I was happy without that package on my system so far and I'd be happy without that documentation. > it's a > package with basically one file. python-systemd is so tiny too that > splitting out a separate -doc package just doesn't seem worth the trouble. > And I think it would be a lost battle: if > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/jQuery is implemented, there will be > hundreds of packages depending on js-jsquery, It doesn't really matter how many packages depends on it. If there is chance to avoid single unnecessary dependency, we should do it. > so having it installed would > be almost unavoidable anyway. And BTW the "tiny" is relative. python-systemd size is 119k and you don't mind to install another two packages occupying additional 145 % of the disk space?
(In reply to Vít Ondruch from comment #2) > (In reply to Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek from comment #1) > > Can you describe the motivation a bit better? js-jquery is tiny, > > "tiny" is no excuse for me. It is additional package, additional burden. I > was happy without that package on my system so far and I'd be happy without > that documentation. Compared to the Python stack, this size is completely irrelevant. I'm pretty sure that if I had not split out the jsquery bundling, you'd have never noticed ;) The guidelines say to split out documentation of "significant" size, and I agree with the lack of need to do it for every few text files. > > so having it installed would > > be almost unavoidable anyway. > > And BTW the "tiny" is relative. python-systemd size is 119k and you don't > mind to install another two packages occupying additional 145 % of the disk > space? If the additional two packages are required by another 1455 packages in the distribution, this dependency is "free".
(In reply to Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek from comment #3) > > And BTW the "tiny" is relative. python-systemd size is 119k and you don't > > mind to install another two packages occupying additional 145 % of the disk > > space? > If the additional two packages are required by another 1455 packages in the > distribution, this dependency is "free". This might or might not happen. And there will be other packages where requiring js-jquery makes functional difference, where this is not true for this particular package. Anyway, I made my point. Feel free to close this issue.
Yeah, I'll close this. I'll keep it mind though to revisit the issue if the documentation ever grows to a more significant size.
I made the split now, with the main packages having Recommends:python-systemd-doc.
I have to agree with Vit here: since python-systemd stills seems to pull in python-systemd-doc via the weak dep so perhaps nothing changed here? I am in rawhide container today and try to install dnf-plugins-core and this pulls in jquery... naively doesn't make so much sense? Though first time I noticed this (is it somehow related with using dnf5?). Does python-systemd use python-systemd-doc? Well I guess a new bug should be opened...