Bug 1303542 - NewRpmDBFormat [NEEDINFO]
Status: NEW
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: Changes Tracking (Show other bugs)
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Assigned To: Florian Festi
ChangeAcceptedF24, SystemWideChange
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Reported: 2016-02-01 04:13 EST by Jan Kurik
Modified: 2018-02-20 10:27 EST (History)
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Description Jan Kurik 2016-02-01 04:13:51 EST
This is a tracking bug for Change: NewRpmDBFormat
For more details, see: https://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/NewRpmDBFormat

Change format of the RPM Database from Berkeley DB to RPM's own format.
Comment 1 Jesus M. Rodriguez 2016-02-18 10:09:20 EST
Can you explain *why* we need to create our *own* format? My first inclination is that we should not be writing our own database format, but instead using a different one that's better maintained.

* look for something like RocksDB, or lmdb
* maintain Berkeley DB ourselves
Comment 2 Jan Kurik 2016-02-24 09:26:06 EST
On 2016-Feb-23, we have reached Fedora 24 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable).

At this point, all accepted changes should be substantially complete, and testable. Additionally, if a change is to be enabled by default, it must be so enabled at Change Completion deadline.

Change tracking bug should be set to the MODIFIED state to indicate it achieved completeness.

Incomplete and non testable Changes will be reported to FESCo on 2016-Feb-26 meeting.  Contingency plan for System Wide Changes, if planned for Alpha (or in case of serious doubts regarding Change completion), will be activated.
Comment 3 Florian Festi 2016-02-26 09:33:06 EST
Further reviews and discussions have turned up more things that still need fixing or being dealt with. As there already was some criticism that this feature is rushed we rather postpone the change of the format for one release and will put the support for the new format in F24 as a tech preview only.
Comment 4 Jan Kurik 2016-07-26 00:17:29 EDT
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 25 development cycle.
Changing version to '25'.
Comment 5 Greg` 2016-08-23 21:45:57 EDT
is this Feature likely to make it for F25 ?
Comment 6 Jason Tibbitts 2016-09-30 18:11:18 EDT
Even if it doesn't, how does one access this feature as a "tech preview" that's in F24 and I assume is still there in F25?  As far as I can tell, our rpm package is built without the flag necessary to compile in the ndb code.
Comment 7 Petr Kubat 2017-01-11 09:32:22 EST
I am wondering, what is the status of the new ndb format? Clearly not available yet in any Fedora release. Has it been postponed to F26 or to some other release?
Comment 8 Shawn Starr 2017-07-04 13:31:57 EDT
Any update on this?
Comment 9 Greg` 2017-07-09 18:38:54 EDT
(In reply to Shawn Starr from comment #8)
> Any update on this?

afaik an think RPM 4.14 will use NDB , whether it'll default to that i dunno . you may wanna read this https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.14
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Comment 11 Shawn Starr 2017-11-16 15:03:16 EST
Any update on this?
Comment 12 Petr Kubat 2017-11-28 06:23:49 EST
Seems like the ability to use lmdb as a backend has been added to rpm upstream:


Is the new custom format still planned for a future change or will lmdb (or some other backend) be used instead?
Comment 13 Fedora End Of Life 2018-02-20 10:27:23 EST
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 28 development cycle.
Changing version to '28'.

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