Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 136977
xeyes missing from xorg-x11 packages
Last modified: 2007-11-30 17:10:52 EST
From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Opera/7.54 (X11; Linux i686; U) [en] Description of problem: xeyes missing from xorg-x11 packages Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): xorg-x11-tools-6.8.1-12 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Additional info: xeyes is pretty useful for doing a quick test of an X server connection on a remote host, so "missing" is a problem.
You could run xclock or xlogo instead of xeyes. It looks like this is intentional. Quoting from the xorg-x11 RPM changelog: ---begin quote--- * Sun Aug 22 2004 Mike A. Harris <mharris@redhat.com> 6.7.99.902-6 - Remove a bunch of legacy Xaw/Xt applications which really should not be part of X11 sources (xbiff,xditview,xeyes,xmessage) ---end quote---
Yes, this is an intentional omission - we're trying to cut down on the number of legacy X applications we ship. As mentioned in comment 1, there are other options for testing connection. I would recommend using xev, which we probably will ship as long as we ship the X window system.
> we're trying to cut down on the number of legacy X applications we ship From my point of view, you're not doing anybody any favors. Furthermore, you provide an Xorg distribution which is incomplete. The polite way to do this would be to push all these selected components into a kind of "Xorg Extras" package, to allow the user to decide whether or not to install. As I understand, Xorg is interested in further modularizing the X11 distribution, so defining an "Xorg Extras" package could be of benefit to everyone.
I agree with the previous commenter. xeyes is one of my favorite Xorg apps actually, and I would very much like a way to install it even if it wasn't included by default.
If the cursor blends into the desktop (as when an old monitor is pressed into service), it is sometimes quicker to pull up xeyes and track its approximate location than to change window managers or fiddle with color settings. bkm
I want my xeyes back into an rpm!!! I am tired of looking for it. It needs to be as a part of some package in the official Fedora distro. Why are we doing such a drastic change by removing an old application like xeyes? One big reason I like Linux/unix is that stuff that existed 20 years ago still exists (and works), let's keep it this way. Roumen Semov
I agree. xeyes is a great quick way to gauge the responsiveness of an X session, which you can't do with xlogo or xclock. What earthly reason is there to drop it? It's not as if it's very large (~12k binary) and I can't imagine that maintenance is much of a chore.