Created attachment 1219727 [details] Same facebook post in f24 and f25 After upgrading to F25 from F23 I noticed that some pages, e.g. facebook displayed text in a weird-looking font (see attachment). It seems that after the upgrade, fontconfig(?) considers TeX Gyre Heros as a more appropriate Helvetica replacement than Nimbus Sans L. In F25, fc-match Helvetica yields: texgyreheros-regular.otf: "TeX Gyre Heros" "Regular" while in F24: n019003l.pfb: "Nimbus Sans L" "Regular" I am looking at a laptop and a desktop, the first running F24 and the latter F25. They both have n019003l.pfb in /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/ and I can't find any difference in the rules in /etc/fonts/ nor is there a local file that overrides these settings. The only obvious difference is the line in which each font is grep-ped in 45-latin.conf. In F24: $ grep -Rn 'Nimbus Sans\|TeX Gyre\|Helvetica' /etc/fonts/conf.d/ /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:11:Helvetica Nimbus Sans TeX Gyre Heros /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:12:Helvetica Condensed Nimbus Sans Narrow TeX Gyre Heros Cn /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:13:Times Nimbus Roman TeX Gyre Termes /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:14:Courier Nimbus Mono TeX Gyre Cursor /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:15:ITC Avant Garde Gothic URW Gothic TeX Gyre Adventor /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:16:ITC Bookman Bookman URW TeX Gyre Bonum Bookman Old Style /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:17:ITC Zapf Chancery Chancery URW TeX Gyre Chorus /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:18:Palatino Palladio URW TeX Gyre Pagella Palatino Linotype /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:19:New Century Schoolbook Century SchoolBook URW TeX Gyre Schola Century Schoolbook /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:42: e.g. Arial to Helvetica /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:53: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:55: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:60: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:62: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:67: <family>TeX Gyre Heros</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:69: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:74: <family>Nimbus Sans Narrow</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:76: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:81: <family>TeX Gyre Heros Cn</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:83: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:102: <family>TeX Gyre Termes</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:123: <family>TeX Gyre Cursor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:151: <family>TeX Gyre Adventor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:179: <family>TeX Gyre Bonum</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:214: <family>TeX Gyre Chorus</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:235: <family>TeX Gyre Pagella</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:263: <family>TeX Gyre Schola</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:401: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:408: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:433: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:440: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:464: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:466: <family>TeX Gyre Heros</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:467: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:468: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:473: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:475: <family>TeX Gyre Heros Cn</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:476: <family>Nimbus Sans Narrow</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:483: <family>TeX Gyre Termes</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:492: <family>TeX Gyre Cursor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:501: <family>TeX Gyre Adventor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:511: <family>TeX Gyre Bonum</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:520: <family>TeX Gyre Chorus</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:530: <family>TeX Gyre Pagella</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:540: <family>TeX Gyre Schola</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-nonlatin.conf:76: <family>ArmNet Helvetica</family> <!-- armenian --> /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf:84: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf:100: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf:104: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf:26: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf:27: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf:28: <family>Helvetica</family> and in F25: $ grep -Rn 'Nimbus Sans\|TeX Gyre\|Helvetica' /etc/fonts/conf.d/ /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-nonlatin.conf:76: <family>ArmNet Helvetica</family> <!-- armenian --> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:11:Helvetica Nimbus Sans TeX Gyre Heros /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:12:Helvetica Condensed Nimbus Sans Narrow TeX Gyre Heros Cn /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:13:Times Nimbus Roman TeX Gyre Termes /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:14:Courier Nimbus Mono TeX Gyre Cursor /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:15:ITC Avant Garde Gothic URW Gothic TeX Gyre Adventor /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:16:ITC Bookman Bookman URW TeX Gyre Bonum Bookman Old Style /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:17:ITC Zapf Chancery Chancery URW TeX Gyre Chorus /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:18:Palatino Palladio URW TeX Gyre Pagella Palatino Linotype /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:19:New Century Schoolbook Century SchoolBook URW TeX Gyre Schola Century Schoolbook /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:42: e.g. Arial to Helvetica /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:53: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:55: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:60: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:62: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:67: <family>TeX Gyre Heros</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:69: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:74: <family>Nimbus Sans Narrow</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:76: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:81: <family>TeX Gyre Heros Cn</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:83: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:102: <family>TeX Gyre Termes</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:123: <family>TeX Gyre Cursor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:151: <family>TeX Gyre Adventor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:179: <family>TeX Gyre Bonum</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:214: <family>TeX Gyre Chorus</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:235: <family>TeX Gyre Pagella</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:263: <family>TeX Gyre Schola</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:401: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:408: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:433: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:440: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:464: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:466: <family>TeX Gyre Heros</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:467: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:468: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:473: <family>Helvetica Condensed</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:475: <family>TeX Gyre Heros Cn</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:476: <family>Nimbus Sans Narrow</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:483: <family>TeX Gyre Termes</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:492: <family>TeX Gyre Cursor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:501: <family>TeX Gyre Adventor</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:511: <family>TeX Gyre Bonum</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:520: <family>TeX Gyre Chorus</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:530: <family>TeX Gyre Pagella</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf:540: <family>TeX Gyre Schola</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf:128: <family>Helvetica</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf:144: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf:148: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf:26: <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf:27: <family>Nimbus Sans</family> /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf:28: <family>Helvetica</family> Is there a setting some place else that I'm overlooking?
Hmm, it seems that texgyreheros-regular.otf was installed only on the F25 machine and it had been pulled in by lilypond. When I removed texlive-tex-gyre which also caused dblatex, texlive-collection-fontsrecommended, texlive-collection-htmlxml, texlive-manfnt-font, texlive-mflogo-font and texlive-wasy2-ps to be removed, firefox reverted to Nimbus Sans L. That could be a problem when I'll have to use TeX stuff again.
It's a pity, TEX Gyre should be the most recent and complete replacement for the original default PDF font. I know the authors spent quite a long time making sure the metrics matched Please relay your problems to TEX Gyre upstream
(In reply to Nicolas Mailhot from comment #2) > Please relay your problems to TEX Gyre upstream Will do later today. Isn't the fact that the font took precedence over Nimbus an issue though?
Type one is a piss poor legacy font format, so there are probably apps that can cope with TEX Gyre but not Nimbus. No good solution :(
Well, I reported the issue to the maintainer listed here: http://mirrors.ctan.org/fonts/tex-gyre/doc/fonts/tex-gyre/README-TeX-Gyre-Heros.txt Today I noticed that the same file reads: "If you know about European languages that are not covered completely or if some glyphs have apparently wrong shapes -- please let us know. Note, however, that Greek glyphs bear provisional character." I guess that means it won't get fixed anytime soon.
I heard back from the maintainers today and apparently there are some Greek glyphs prepared by the Ghostscript team sometime last year, which are to be included in TeX Gyre Heros. This has not happened yet, because of an incompatibility between the two licenses and they are currently working to resolve that.
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