From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041111 Firefox/1.0 Description of problem: howl has a huge set of package dependencies. From my perspective, since we have no Macs, we don't need this installed. "yum remove howl" generates an enormous list of dependent items, most of which don't make a whole lot of sense. Here's the list from one of my machines when I run "yum remove howl": Dependencies Resolved Transaction Listing: Remove: howl.i386 0:0.9.6-6 Performing the following to resolve dependencies: Remove: NetworkManager-gnome.i386 0:0.3.3-1.cvs20050119.2.fc3 Remove: control-center.i386 1:2.8.0-12 Remove: desktop-printing.i386 0:0.17-3 Remove: eel2.i386 0:2.8.1-2 Remove: eog.i386 0:2.8.0-3 Remove: evolution-data-server.i386 0:1.0.2-3 Remove: file-roller.i386 0:2.8.1-1 Remove: firefox.i386 0:1.0-2.fc3 Remove: firstboot.noarch 0:1.3.33-1 Remove: gconf-editor.i386 0:2.8.0-2 Remove: gdm.i386 1:2.6.0.5-6 Remove: gedit.i386 1:2.8.1-2.fc3 Remove: ggv.i386 0:2.8.0-1 Remove: gnome-applets.i386 1:2.8.0-5 Remove: gnome-desktop.i386 0:2.8.0-3 Remove: gnome-keyring-manager.i386 0:0.0.3-1 Remove: gnome-media.i386 0:2.8.0-3.FC3.1 Remove: gnome-netstatus.i386 0:2.8.0-3 Remove: gnome-panel.i386 0:2.8.1-3 Remove: gnome-pilot.i386 0:2.0.12-4 Remove: gnome-python2.i386 0:2.6.0-3 Remove: gnome-python2-bonobo.i386 0:2.6.0-3 Remove: gnome-python2-canvas.i386 0:2.6.0-3 Remove: gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.i386 0:2.6.0-3 Remove: gnome-session.i386 0:2.8.0-4 Remove: gnome-system-monitor.i386 0:2.7.0-2 Remove: gnome-terminal.i386 0:2.7.3-1 Remove: gnome-utils.i386 1:2.8.0-5 Remove: gnome-vfs2.i386 0:2.8.2-8 Remove: gnome-vfs2-smb.i386 0:2.8.2-8 Remove: gnome-volume-manager.i386 0:1.1.0-5 Remove: gnopernicus.i386 0:0.9.12-1 Remove: gok.i386 0:0.11.8-1 Remove: gpdf.i386 0:2.8.2-2.2 Remove: gstreamer-plugins.i386 0:0.8.5-1 Remove: gthumb.i386 0:2.4.2-5 Remove: gtkhtml2.i386 0:2.6.2-1 Remove: howl-libs.i386 0:0.9.6-6 Remove: hwbrowser.noarch 0:0.18-2 Remove: krb5-auth-dialog.i386 0:0.2-1 Remove: libbonoboui.i386 0:2.8.0.99cvs20040929-2 Remove: libgail-gnome.i386 0:1.1.0-1 Remove: libgnome.i386 0:2.8.0-2 Remove: libgnomeui.i386 0:2.8.0-1 Remove: libgsf.i386 0:1.10.1-1 Remove: librsvg2.i386 0:2.8.1-1 Remove: memprof.i386 1:0.5.1-5 Remove: nautilus.i386 0:2.8.1-4 Remove: nautilus-cd-burner.i386 0:2.8.3-6 Remove: nautilus-media.i386 0:0.8.1-3 Remove: rhn-applet.i386 0:2.1.16-1 Remove: system-config-network.noarch 0:1.3.22-1 Remove: system-config-packages.noarch 0:1.2.20-1 Remove: system-config-printer-gui.i386 0:0.6.116.1.1-1 Remove: up2date-gnome.i386 0:4.3.47-5 Remove: vino.i386 0:2.8.1-1 Remove: yelp.i386 0:2.6.3-1 Is this ok [y/N]: You can guess my answer to the above question. I guess this is a rant about philosophy. Maybe I'm myopic. But I just don't see a lot of folks tying into Rendervous with linux, especially me. Why this has such prominence in fc3 I can't understand. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): howl-0.9.6-6 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Try to remove howl. I dare you. 2. Watch it complain about needing to remove large pieces of gnome, firefox. 3. Whine about howl being tightly tied into the rest of fc3, like fc3 was created to be competition for MacOS X. Actual Results: Stunned at the dependencies. Expected Results: Rendervous should have had an eponynomy with the bit bucket. Additional info:
I'm really not interested in flamewars about distro philosophy in bugzilla. howl is hardly a large package, and we're starting to see interesting use of it in the desktop.