Bug 1573873 - Cogl/Clutter does not support 10-bit depth colours making some Gnome applications unusable
Summary: Cogl/Clutter does not support 10-bit depth colours making some Gnome applicat...
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Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: cogl
Version: 28
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Peter Robinson
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
Whiteboard: RejectedBlocker
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2018-05-02 12:20 UTC by Lukas Ruzicka
Modified: 2019-05-28 22:01 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2019-05-28 22:01:26 UTC
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Description Lukas Ruzicka 2018-05-02 12:20:21 UTC
Description of problem:

Some Gnome applications, such as Totem, Cheese, and Maps, are not working properly on AMD cards. Supposedly, the problem is caused by a missing support for 10-bit depth RGB colours as described in bug #1560481, because cogl/clutter does not support it. 

According to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795748, cogl/clutter neither does support rgb10 nor will do it in the future because it is in deep maintenance mode. 

The problem has been workarounded by switching off the rgb10 support in the Mesa library to unblock a release blocker for Fedora 28. Now, it is switched off.
However, the feature should not remain switched off. It should be enabled for people who want to use it, so the situation with those Gnome application would be great to fix until Fedora 29. 

I am proposing this bug as a blocker for Fedora 29 and also as a Prioritized Bug in order to track it properly, so that it gets good care in the upcoming time.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

Fedora 28 Beta

How reproducible:

Always in Fedora 28 Beta

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install Fedora Workstation 28 Beta
2. Log onto Gnome session
3. Run Totem, Maps, Cheese ...

Actual results:

The above mentioned applications are not responsive because of the described missing support. 

Expected results:

The application should either override the rgb10 feature and stay responsive or, for the better, they should make use of the rgb10 feature.
The rgb10 support should be switched ON in Fedora 29.

Comment 1 Fedora Blocker Bugs Application 2018-05-02 12:22:46 UTC
Proposed as a Blocker for 29-beta by Fedora user lruzicka using the blocker tracking app because:

 The bug affects using the functionality of Totem and other Gnome apps. Although workarounded, the functionality should be introduced back into Fedora.

Comment 2 Lukas Ruzicka 2018-05-02 12:25:15 UTC
Bugs were also reported upstream for Totem, Cheese and Maps, so that their developers could think how they will deal with that.


Comment 3 Adam Williamson 2018-05-02 20:40:02 UTC
I don't see any grounds on which this currently constitutes a Beta blocker. It's only violating the criteria if the apps aren't working. So long as the issue is worked around, it's not breaking the release criteria. Of course it'd be nice to fix things 'properly', but we don't have to block the Beta on it, IMO.

Comment 4 Chris Murphy 2018-05-14 05:13:40 UTC
I don't understand enough about exactly where there should be rgb8 to 10 conversion to support legacy 8 bit per channel programs, so that all apps can just work. I know this has been done some time ago on Windows and a bit more recently on macOS, and they did account for legacy programs. For sure the programs that want 10 bit per channel precision should get access and can't remain at a lower precision indefinitely.

Instead of using blocker process, I suggest gathering all the relevant bugs with a summary, and put it into a Workstation WG ticket.

Comment 5 Adam Williamson 2018-05-14 16:51:44 UTC
CCing Mesa and Workstation folks: basically what we want to keep track of here is that things stay in sync. The 10-bit support should ultimately be re-enabled in mesa, but only when the apps that were broken by enabling it have been fixed to work with it. So, trying to make sure everyone's on this bug.

Comment 6 Peter Robinson 2018-05-14 18:24:12 UTC
(In reply to Adam Williamson from comment #5)
> CCing Mesa and Workstation folks: basically what we want to keep track of
> here is that things stay in sync. The 10-bit support should ultimately be
> re-enabled in mesa, but only when the apps that were broken by enabling it
> have been fixed to work with it. So, trying to make sure everyone's on this
> bug.

So a brief discussion with various people at the GNOME perf hackfest this week they've indicated it's likely a bug/issue in mesa so will probably have to be fixed there, just noting that here for reference before I forget.

Comment 7 František Zatloukal 2018-05-14 22:33:37 UTC
Discussed during the 2018-05-14 blocker review meeting: [1]

The decision to classify this bug as an RejectedBlocker was made:

"As things stand, nothing is broken for F29 Beta. There is no blocker bug here. If the 10-bit support is reintroduced in Mesa without affected applications being fixed, we will revisit this."

[1] https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2018-05-14/f29-blocker-review.2018-05-14-16.01.log.txt

Comment 8 Ben Cotton 2018-08-01 20:51:36 UTC
Rejected as a PrioritizedBug. We have a workaround in place and there are several upstream changes that need to land before this can be addressed in Fedora.

Comment 9 Ben Cotton 2019-05-02 21:13:10 UTC
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Comment 10 Ben Cotton 2019-05-28 22:01:26 UTC
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