Bug 159144 - Removal of libfam.la breaks *lots* of KDE
Removal of libfam.la breaks *lots* of KDE
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: gamin (Show other bugs)
All Linux
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Assigned To: Daniel Veillard
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Blocks: FC4Blocker FC4Update
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Reported: 2005-05-30 12:46 EDT by Ville Skyttä
Modified: 2008-05-09 13:34 EDT (History)
7 users (show)

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Fixed In Version: 0.1.3-1.FC4
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Last Closed: 2005-08-18 04:53:50 EDT
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Patch to solve broke gamin package based on cvs version (357 bytes, patch)
2005-06-02 12:52 EDT, Jochen Schmitt
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Description Ville Skyttä 2005-05-30 12:46:51 EDT
The removal of libfam.la from gamin makes the build of lots, if not all KDE apps
to fail, unless the FC KDE (and apparently all apps which were built against
that, at least -devel packages) get rebuilt.  Just grep for libfam.la in
/usr/lib/*.la, and see also bugs 158973 and 159090.  Looks like it would be a
*lot* easier to fix this breakage by restoring the *.la (or at least libfam.la)
in gamin-devel.
Comment 1 Jochen Schmitt 2005-06-02 12:52:35 EDT
Created attachment 115094 [details]
Patch to solve broke gamin package based on cvs version

It's very important to solve this bug, becouse it is semms inpossible to build
any KDE application.

My Inclussion of kyum to FE is pending, until this bug will be solved.

Best Regards:

Jochen Schmitt
Comment 2 Daniel Veillard 2005-06-02 17:30:04 EDT
This is wrong. The policy is to remove the .la on the distro. This is a bug
in the kde layers if their development build still requires it, possibly they 
need to be recompiled or adjusted. 

Comment 3 Jerry Amundson 2005-06-03 02:32:20 EDT
Whatever the policy, this needs to be corrected. I cannot compile Krecipes - how
am I to eat? :-)
Comment 4 Evan Moore 2005-06-03 07:49:12 EDT
Nor Can I ever look at my photos again without DigiKam 
Comment 5 Ville Skyttä 2005-06-03 11:38:37 EDT
Daniel, I'm not opposed to such a policy per se, but where one can read about it
being decided or even discussed recently?  I haven't seen anything on
fedora-devel, fedora-maintainers or fedora-packaging lists that would indicate
*.la being removed distro-wide for FC4.

Also, such changes obviously need better coordination.  The current situation is
not limited to kdelibs, at least these FC packages are more or less broken (ie.
still contain libfam.la in one or more of their /usr/lib/*.la or
/usr/lib/kde3/*.la), and there may be more elsewhere:


All 3rd party KDE applications compiled against the current or past FC KDE are
probably affected in the same way.  Not cool.
Comment 6 Elliot Lee 2005-06-03 13:17:30 EDT
For FC4 we'll just add the .la file back in. This fix is not included in the
devel branch so Daniel will need to make the decision for the long-term (either
put the .la file back in or rebuild all the k* packages, as I understand it).
Comment 7 Daniel Veillard 2005-06-04 04:38:38 EDT
w.r.t. comment #5, I got automatically generated (my guess) bug reports
for all my packages which contained .la files like:
  #154142 , #152515, #145973, #145972, #142243, #142241
and that's just for the last 6 months !
Now people need to set up their mind, either la should be kept or must
go, but getting bug reports for both is just not acceptable.
Status quo is that .la files must go as far as I understand, so I think
the KDE packages will need to be rebuild for Rawhide.

Eliott, w.r.t. #6 are you making that rebuild or should I do it ?

Comment 8 Ngo Than 2005-06-06 04:18:52 EDT
I think for FC4 it's too late to do this change (removing *.la files).
I will suggest to revert this change for FC4. And for fc4 we will remove it.
Comment 9 Ngo Than 2005-06-06 04:21:10 EDT
i have seen Elliot has already added *.la files back for FC4.
Comment 10 Felix 2005-07-26 01:14:40 EDT
Although this bug is marked as close, I am still getting this error with most
lates update of FC4. Specifically, I am getting the following:

/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libfam.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libfam.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [libimageeditor.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory

The file *is* there, although I don't whether it is a valid libtool archive or
not... I am running FC4 (2.6.12-1.1398_FC4), KDE 3.4.1-0 and trying to build
digikam 0.7.4

Is it indeed resolved (and I am doing something stupid) or it is not released yet?

Comment 11 Ngo Than 2005-07-26 04:08:34 EDT
The current gamin-0.1.1-1.FC4 still includes the *.la files. You should 
update to gamin-0.1.1-1.FC4, which is available in FC4-update.
Comment 12 Felix 2005-07-26 10:57:28 EDT
I am sorry to nag again, but this message raised more questions for me than
answerd... Like I said earlier, I *have* /usr/lib/libfam.la. Also, I have
gamin-0.1.2-1.FC4. However, I looked at it with rpm -ql, and it doesn't have

~$rpm -ql gamin
... (html and related files in /usr/share/doc/gamin-0.1.2)

Neither has gamin-devel:
~$rpm -ql gamin-devel

Are you suggesting I should *downgrade* to gamin-0.1.1? I am fairly new to Linux
client, so I apologize if these questions don't make sense :-)
Comment 13 Ngo Than 2005-07-26 11:32:03 EDT
i have taken a look at gamin-0.1.2-1.FC4. The *.la files have been removed again.

for FC4, you cannot remove it, it breaks the dependency in KDE.
Could you please revert this change.
it would be ok for FC5 but not for FC4.

Comment 14 Daniel Veillard 2005-08-18 04:53:50 EDT
gamin-0.1.3-1.FC4 should have the .la

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