Bug 166347 - clisp fails to build on power
Summary: clisp fails to build on power
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: clisp
Version: 9
Hardware: powerpc
OS: Linux
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Gérard Milmeister
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
Whiteboard: bzcl34nup
Depends On:
Blocks: F-ExcludeArch-ppc
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2005-08-19 17:01 UTC by Gérard Milmeister
Modified: 2009-07-14 16:57 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

Fixed In Version:
Doc Type: Enhancement
Doc Text:
Clone Of:
Last Closed: 2009-07-14 16:57:24 UTC
Type: ---

Attachments (Terms of Use)
Build log for clisp-2.35 on ppc (100.17 KB, text/plain)
2005-08-29 23:06 UTC, Gérard Milmeister
no flags Details
Output from normal build with debugging (191.74 KB, text/plain)
2006-12-29 19:50 UTC, David Woodhouse
no flags Details
Output from -DNO_GENERATIONAL_GC build with debugging (186.98 KB, text/plain)
2006-12-29 19:52 UTC, David Woodhouse
no flags Details

Description Gérard Milmeister 2005-08-19 17:01:27 UTC
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Description of problem:
CLisp build fails on the ppc build system. Since the src rpm builds fine on PowerPC system, the problem seems to be with the differences of Power5 (the build system) and PowerPC.

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How reproducible:

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Comment 1 Sam Steingold 2005-08-29 20:22:59 UTC
for the record: clisp builds fine on the SF CF ppc-osx2
Darwin ppc-osx2.cf.sourceforge.net 6.8 Darwin Kernel Version 6.8: Wed Sep 10 15:
20:55 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.49.obj~2/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc

also, for the record, it would be nice to see a failed build log 
(prererably clisp 2.35)

Comment 2 Gérard Milmeister 2005-08-29 23:04:18 UTC
I thought it might be related to this:

It might indeed be useful to have a PowerPC as a buildserver in place of (or in
addition to a Power5).

Comment 3 Gérard Milmeister 2005-08-29 23:06:20 UTC
Created attachment 118232 [details]
Build log for clisp-2.35 on ppc

Comment 4 Sam Steingold 2005-08-30 10:25:17 UTC
the build log indicates a crash on first GC. very common on unusual architectures.
if someone with access to the hardware in question (power5) wants to investigate
further, the place to start is the file clisp/unix/PLATFORMS.
specifically, try
$ ./configure --with-debug --build build-g
[PS I suggest a change in "Summary" to replace "power" with "power5" for clarity]

Comment 5 David Woodhouse 2006-12-29 12:01:03 UTC
I can poke at it but it's not clear I'd be much use. Better for someone with a
bit more clue to mail me a SSH public key and I'll give access to suitable
machines for testing.

If something fails on POWER5 but not earlier processors, it _could_ be Altivec,
but it could also be that you're trying to execute pages which are marked
non-executable, like the stack. Older processors didn't catch that, but newer
ones do.

Comment 6 Sam Steingold 2006-12-29 15:05:02 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> I can poke at it but it's not clear I'd be much use.

please do - with the latest CLISP sources.
please take a look at the "porting" section in 

Comment 7 David Woodhouse 2006-12-29 19:48:15 UTC
Adding -DNO_GENERATIONAL_GC to CFLAGS prevents the error shown in the build log
but it just segfaults a little later. This is on Mac G5 with 4KiB pages. It
isn't faulting due to executing non-executable pages -- it's something else; I'm
not sure what.

Building on G4 too, to make sure it's really OK there.

Comment 8 David Woodhouse 2006-12-29 19:50:27 UTC
Created attachment 144556 [details]
Output from normal build with debugging

 ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --fsstnd=redhat --with-dynamic-ffi
--with-module=berkeley-db --with-module=clx/new-clx --with-module=pcre
--with-module=postgresql --with-module=rawsock --with-module=wildcard
--with-module=zlib --with-module=bindings/glibc --with-readline --build build 
--with-debug 2>&1 | tee build-debug.out

Comment 9 David Woodhouse 2006-12-29 19:52:22 UTC
Created attachment 144558 [details]
Output from -DNO_GENERATIONAL_GC build with debugging

CFLAGS=-DNO_GENERATIONAL_GC ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib
--fsstnd=redhat --with-dynamic-ffi --with-module=berkeley-db
--with-module=clx/new-clx --with-module=pcre --with-module=postgresql
--with-module=rawsock --with-module=wildcard --with-module=zlib
--with-module=bindings/glibc --with-readline --build build  --with-debug 2>&1 |
tee build-debug.out

Comment 10 David Woodhouse 2006-12-29 20:05:06 UTC
Strange. When I run the failing command manually it dies as shown above. But
when I run 'make interpreted.mem' in the build directory, it runs the _same_
command, and it seems to work. Compare http://david.woodhou.se/typescript.manual

Comment 11 David Woodhouse 2006-12-29 23:45:34 UTC
Very strange. With this patch to the specfile, which _ought_ to be a no-op, it

Index: clisp.spec
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/clisp/FC-6/clisp.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -p -r1.21 clisp.spec
--- clisp.spec  13 Oct 2006 10:54:48 -0000      1.21
+++ clisp.spec  29 Dec 2006 23:30:51 -0000
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ BuildRequires:  libXmu-devel
 BuildRequires:  libXrender-devel
 BuildRequires:  libXt-devel
 BuildRequires: imake
-ExcludeArch:   ppc ppc64
+#ExcludeArch:  ppc ppc64
@@ -59,6 +59,7 @@ Files necessary for linking CLISP.
 CFLAGS="" ./configure --prefix=%{_prefix} \
            --libdir=%{_libdir} \
            --fsstnd=redhat \
@@ -72,8 +73,13 @@ CFLAGS="" ./configure --prefix=%{_prefix
            --with-module=zlib \
            --with-module=bindings/glibc \
            --with-readline \
-           --build build
+           --config build
+   cd build
+    ./makemake --with-dynamic-ffi  --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib
--fsstnd=redhat --with-module=berkeley-db --with-module=clx/new-clx
--with-module=pcre --with-module=postgresql --with-module=rawsock
--with-module=wildcard --with-module=zlib --with-module=bindings/glibc
--with-readline --srcdir=../src   > Makefile
+    make config.lisp
+    make
+    make check
+cd ..

Comment 12 Sam Steingold 2007-01-01 18:13:51 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> Very strange. With this patch to the specfile, which _ought_ to be a no-op, it
> builds.

there is a "ulimit" command in configure that makes the patch not quite a no-op.

Comment 13 David Woodhouse 2007-01-01 20:49:23 UTC
Hm. But does that explain why it works from 'make interpreted.mem' but not when
cut-and-pasting the same command by hand, as shown in comment #10?

Comment 14 Sam Steingold 2007-01-01 22:40:25 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> Hm. But does that explain why it works from 'make interpreted.mem' but not when
> cut-and-pasting the same command by hand, as shown in comment #10?

no, I am lost here too...

Comment 15 David Woodhouse 2007-01-01 22:49:42 UTC
If you give me a SSH public key I'll give you an account on suitable machines,
so you can try to work out what's going on -- or at least give your blessing to
the version built with the above workaround?

Comment 16 Sam Steingold 2007-01-02 14:35:54 UTC
(In reply to comment #15)
> If you give me a SSH public key I'll give you an account on suitable machines,
> so you can try to work out what's going on -- or at least give your blessing to
> the version built with the above workaround?

you have my blessing to distribute CLISP buit with your workaround.
here is my public key:

Comment 17 Sam Steingold 2007-01-02 18:58:23 UTC
thanks for the power5 account.
the connection appears to be dead, but so far I figured out the following:
do NOT disable Generational GC.

./configure --build build-O
cd build-O

just works.
the reason for the problems we observe with --build APPEARS to be that
the default stack limit is 10240, while configure limits it to 8192.
I am unable to test the conjecture because the connection is dead.

Comment 18 Sam Steingold 2007-01-02 21:19:48 UTC
indeed ulimit is at fault and configure/cd/make works just fine.
I will fix the top-level configure not to reduce ulimit.

Comment 19 David Woodhouse 2007-01-07 02:18:07 UTC
Gérard, will you trigger a build with the above workaround, or should I?

Comment 20 Gérard Milmeister 2007-01-07 10:41:26 UTC
Yes, please do, but can you summarize what the workaround does. I only loosely
followed the discussion.

Comment 21 David Woodhouse 2007-04-30 13:28:16 UTC
Hm, after a successful local build (on rawhide), it fails in mock. 


Trying again on FC6 -- I think the build system might be using the FC6 kernel,
with 64KiB pages.

Comment 22 David Woodhouse 2007-05-03 16:16:30 UTC
No, I have FC6 machines on which it builds, and rawhide machines on which it
doesn't. It builds fine on one rawhide machine and not on another, and both are
Mac G5s. Confused.

Comment 23 David Woodhouse 2007-05-04 07:30:03 UTC
The patch from CVS doesn't seem to work. Just using 2.41 and this does though:
sed -i "s|ulimit -s 8192|ulimit -s unlimited|" configure

So we have a PPC build of clisp in Fedora. Now we just need the ppc64 build... :)

Comment 24 Rex Dieter 2007-07-12 19:36:24 UTC
I see this has been closed, but I don't clisp in any ppc repo(s) yet.  Am I
missing something?

Comment 25 Rex Dieter 2007-07-20 14:05:27 UTC
For F-7, not ever pushed as update, nor has any rawhide build been requested
(yet).  Maybe it was built during F-7 freeze?

Regardless, it's not available in any repo, so... ???

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