Description of problem: fedora core needs an official list of unsupported things. it's annoying to waste time entering a bug only to have it instantly closed WONTFIX with no explanation, or with a terse "unsupported kthxbye". Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.time consumingly collect data for a comprehensive and detailed bug report 2.spend time entering the bug into bugzilla 3.wait a few minutes Actual results: Watch bug get closed WONTFIX Expected results: Should have a list of unsupported things so people dont waste time tracking down / debugging stuff for bug reports which will be instantly dismissed. it would also be helpful to know which things are unsupported so that if there is some showstopper for someone thinking of using fedora, they know up front ahead of time and can decide if they can work around it, or if they should move on. Additional info: xfs, jfs, reiserfs, ntfs, lilo, vmware, etc. if these official policies are explicitly stated somewhere in the existing fedora documentation, i could not find them.
This information has been collected at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems You may also find this useful: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMyths These pages are only a few months old. We have been trying to publicize them whenever and wherever we can. Please spread these URLs around to help others in your situation. In addition, we also do a snapshot of the ForbiddenItems in the relnotes. This is the one that appeared in the FC4 release notes: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/errata/#sn-why-no-mp3 Unfortunately, this did not make it into the actual released package on the FC4 system, as you can see it was an errata. Future release notes continue to have this information, in a highlighted position. Thanks for the report, mind if I close it NOTABUG? ;-)
ForbiddenItems only covers things that we wouldnt support due to legal and philosophical. FedoraMyths addresses misconceptions. A list of things that Fedora doesnt support due to lack of resources would be useful. Its better to create such a page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wishlist has some notes on this. We should also get the developers to add things to that page. Instead of a terse note, they could use a stock bugzilla template from Fedora Bug Squad http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
Good point. However, the original report from comment #1 specified a list of technologies, "xfs, jfs, reiserfs, ntfs, lilo, vmware, etc." Most of these are covered on the ForbiddenItems page. This bug report seems to be in the family of requests for more information on what is not supported because of license or patent encumberance. As for lilo, it's not on that page. Was it removed recently enough to be a Fedora Project issue? The grub v. lilo debate has been going on for a while.
We can add a seperate note with a link to the wishlist and HelpWanted requesting community participation. NTFS is covered in ForbiddenStuff. Vmware would fall under the general remark on not including proprietary components. I consider the lilo vs grub debate to over too essentially. If that sounds reasonable to the reporter, lets close this one
the list was not meant to be complete. it was meant as an example. just query for WONTFIX or "unsupported". how should bugs like #158590 be listed? (btw I completely disagree with the bug resolution but it seems it is not open for discussion.) bug #166699 implies that changing file permissions of any site-specific config files is officially unsupported. so this list would go beyond just specific packages, but would cover official fedora OS operational/configuration policies as well. eg touch this = unsupported. i'm guessing operating in any mode other than ext3+selinux is currently "unsupported" right?
To answer your last question, enabling and disabling SELinux is all supported, with the targeted policy. Documentation needs to focus on the biggest hurts it can, to help the largest number of users. This is how we have to think when it comes to allocating resources. If this is of interest to you, there are several things further you can do: * Start a Wiki page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki. Let me know what UserName you take and I'll add it to the EditGroup. This would be an informal page, but expect to be reviewed. * Suggest an idea at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/DocIdeas . Someone might pick it up and go with the idea. * You or someone you recruit start a formal document at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts. To do that, you need to self-introduce, as described at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/NewWriters . These are more in the nature of tutorial/howto/FAQs. Everything covered must be part of Core or Extras. Discussing unsupported options and how to enable/use them seems like a highly relevant documentation need. Community support is valuable, after all.
i'll make a wiki page. my wiki username is bani
Thank you for stepping up. The username needs to be in the FirstnameLastname format for wiki linking. Other details available here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing Drop me a mail or note in bugzilla with the new username and we will add you to the edit group to take this forward.
This report targets the FC3 or FC4 products, which have now been EOL'd. Could you please check that it still applies to a current Fedora release, and either update the target product or close it ? Thanks.
Fedora Core 4 is no longer maintained. Setting status to "INSUFFICIENT_DATA". If you can reproduce this bug in the current Fedora release, please reopen this bug and assign it to the corresponding Fedora version.