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Bug 168373 - perl is compiled without 64bit int on i386
perl is compiled without 64bit int on i386
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: perl (Show other bugs)
i386 Linux
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Assigned To: Jason Vas Dias
David Lawrence
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Reported: 2005-09-15 10:42 EDT by Ola Thoresen
Modified: 2007-11-30 17:11 EST (History)
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Last Closed: 2005-11-01 19:25:47 EST
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Description Ola Thoresen 2005-09-15 10:42:15 EDT
Description of problem:
perl is compiled without 64bit int on i386

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How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install perl
2. perl -e 'printf ("%x", 99999999999999)'

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Expected results:

Additional info:
From the INSTALL manual:
"The use64bitint option does only as much as is required to get 64-bit integers
into Perl (this may mean, for example, using "long longs") while your memory may
still be limited to 2 gigabytes (because your pointers could still be 32-bit).
Note that the name 64bitint does not imply that your C compiler will be using
64-bit ints (it might, but it doesn't have to). The use64bitint simply means
that you will be able to have 64 bit-wide scalar values."


At least I need 64bit ints for some internal applications that needs to run on
both x86_64 and i386.
Comment 1 Warren Togami 2005-10-17 22:55:00 EDT
Hey Chip (or anyone else), what is your recommendation for this to go into
rawhide?  I don't know anything about the ramifications of what this would cause.
Comment 2 Jason Vas Dias 2005-11-01 19:25:47 EST
When you are running perl on a 64-bit machine, and have installed the 64-bit
architecture version, ie. on x86_64, perl-*.x86_64.rpm, not perl-*i386.rpm, 
then you do get 64-bit integers by default:
e.g. on an x86_64, with perl*.x86_64
$ rpm -q perl --qf '%{ARCH}\n'
$ perl -e 'print ( 1 <<32, "\n" );'

The 64bitint feature is meant to provide support for 64bit integers on 32 bit
platforms, and has been associated with severe problems in the past.

Using 64-bit integer emulation on 32-bit platforms would incur a heavy 
performance penalty for ALL applications, even those that make no use
of 33+bit integers. 

It is also made redundant by use of the 'use bigint' pragma, which you can
specify on the command line with -Mbigint, or in the environment of for your
perl scripts on 32-bit platforms with the environment variable setting
e.g, on an i386 machine:
$ rpm -q perl --qf '%{ARCH}\n'
$ perl -e 'print ( 1<<32, "\n");'
$ PERL5OPT=-Mbigint perl -e 'print ( 1<<32, "\n");'

Since there are many workarounds, and we don't want to incur a performance
penalty for all perl scripts, and there have been problems with -D64bitint,
I don't think we should enable this feature unless absolutely required - sorry.

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