Bug 1709401 - Fedora Workstation needs tray icon/appindicator support
Summary: Fedora Workstation needs tray icon/appindicator support
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Status: NEW
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Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: gnome-shell
Version: 40
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
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Assignee: Owen Taylor
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2019-05-13 14:07 UTC by mlaverdiere
Modified: 2024-02-16 17:24 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2020-11-24 18:15:55 UTC
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Description mlaverdiere 2019-05-13 14:07:54 UTC
I'm on Fedora Workstation 30 (with GNOME).

Since upstream GNOME doesn't seam ready any time soon to deliver a workable alternative to the traditional system tray on which many applications still relies, I think that Fedora Workstation (which comes with GNOME) should consider to include by default one of the GNOME shell extensions that provides the service.

This missing feature in Fedora Workstation makes many third-party applications/services (Nextcloud, Telegram Desktop, Dropbox, Skype, Steam, Variety, Discord, Slack, Insync, etc.) almost unusable. Most (if not all) others Fedora spins / Desktop Environments (KDE, MATE, XFCE, etc.), provide support for tray icons /appindicators. Ubuntu, which also relies on GNOME shell, also manages to offer this feature through a preinstalled extension (see below).

I think it is fair to say that most users would see such a feature as a basic one, that should be supported out of the box, without having to go through the installation of an extension.  

The right extension to include is probably KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support, since it seems to be actively maintained, as it is also included by default in Ubuntu: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/

There is also other extensions (like Topicons - with variants plus or redux), but it's not clear if they are still maintained and they only provide the legacy tray icons service, not the new appindicator service. Probably not the best option.

Comment 1 Harvey 2019-10-31 20:37:56 UTC
I had to switch folks from Fedora to Ubuntu only because Ubuntu supports sys tray app status indicators and Fedora 30 (now 31) does not support it. I agree with mlaverdiere. Skype and Slack and other useful office applications really need this feature for productivity reasons. Ubuntu (now 19.10) provides this feature by default, so does Mac OS X, and so does Windows 10. If and when Fedora provides it again in the future, I will have everyone switch back to Fedora. Other than that, I love Fedora (and RedHat).

Comment 2 Ben Cotton 2020-11-03 16:52:13 UTC
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Comment 3 Ben Cotton 2020-11-24 18:15:55 UTC
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Comment 4 mlaverdiere 2021-03-29 19:41:54 UTC
Obviously, it is an ongoing bug, still present in Fedora Rawhide (and current Fedora 34 beta). Again, the absence of such a feature in Fedora Workstation makes it hard (or impossible) to use a lot of application/services that relies on a system tray/appindicators icon and forces user to go the extra steps to install the extension themselves. Not user friendly...

Easy solution: integrating: gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (which works with Fedora 34 and, being well maintained, has always work with previous GNOME/Fedora version): https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator

Comment 5 Daniel Rusek 2022-04-19 13:04:08 UTC
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264

Comment 6 Daniel Rusek 2023-01-13 23:16:20 UTC
Here are links for the new appindicator spec draft + GNOME design for background apps:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/54
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/os-mockups/-/issues/191

The possibility of integrating gnome-shell-extension-appindicator until a proper upstream solution is implemented is being discussed here:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246#comment-834588

Comment 7 Ben Cotton 2023-02-07 14:51:15 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora Linux 38 development cycle.
Changing version to 38.

Comment 8 Daniel Rusek 2023-09-11 11:48:25 UTC
Another possible solution to this problem could be extending the GNOME Background Apps support (that is based on xdg-desktop-portal background portal) to also cover non-Flatpak apps + maybe also adding some kind of compatibility layer redirecting SNI/systray apps to the xdg-desktop-portal background portal as mentioned in this comment: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264#comment-868911

Or at least implementing some basic stub API functions of SNI/systray to allow apps like Telegram to run on background.

But that's just my personal idea.

Comment 9 Daniel Rusek 2023-09-20 09:32:46 UTC
Ignore what I said about Telegram in my previous comment. Telegram is now able to run on background on stock GNOME (without the AppIndicator extension) since latest update. There are no workarounds needed anymore.

Comment 10 Aoife Moloney 2024-02-15 22:53:14 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora Linux 40 development cycle.
Changing version to 40.

Comment 11 Fedora Admin user for bugzilla script actions 2024-02-15 22:53:20 UTC
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This issue should only be kept open if it:

1. Relates to Fedora packaging or integration with other Fedora components
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If this issue isn't needed for either of these two reasons, please:

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Thank you!

Comment 12 mlaverdiere 2024-02-16 17:24:30 UTC
The issue at stake here is not a bug in a GNOME component, but a bug (missing feature) in the Fedora Worstation distribution. The issue is that Fedora Workstation, as a distribution, should include the KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator GNOME extensions by default (activated upon installation)like it already includes/activates by default some other extensions, until (if it ever happens someday) upstream GNOME provides a tray/appindicator support (or any valid alternative).


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