in groups view, pirut currently doesn't show mandatory packages This is confusing - for example, let's say I want to install an ftp server. I go to Servers, then enable "FTP Servers". There's no indication displayed anywhere that I'm getting vsftpd automatically, so I'm likely going to go ahead and install proftpd or pureftpd under optional packages because it looks like I'm not getting anything otherwise Better design, I think, would be something like changing "Optional Packages" to say something like "Detailed View". When you select "Detailed View", it shows you the mandatory packages (with no option to deselect) and then below them the optional packages, with the option to select or not as you see fit
So, I continue to go back and forth about this. You've covered one side of the argument. The other side is that showing the mandatory packages won't necessarily show the full view. eg, it doesn't do dependency resolution so you won't realize when packages are pulled in by deps. But maybe the answer there is that if it's an "interesting" package, it should be included as mandatory even if it is going to get pulled in by a dep anyway. I can probably be swayed either way. Maybe it'll just be something that changes from one to the other each release ;)
Agreed that showing the mandatory still doesn't give a complete picture, but it does give a more usable one Think again about the usage case I gave -- trying to install an ftp server. Do I care that when it selects vsftpd as mandatory that later when it does dependency resolution it'll also select logrotate? It's nice to know, but I don't really care in the same way that I do need to know that if I select the FTP Servers I've already implicitly selected vsftpd, and therefore don't also need to select pureftpd I can't really think of a usage case why anyone would prefer the current behavior....
Stumbled across this --- need to check it and either fix it or close it.
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