Bug 187108 - pirut groups view should show mandatory packages
pirut groups view should show mandatory packages
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: pirut (Show other bugs)
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Assigned To: Jeremy Katz
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Reported: 2006-03-28 10:50 EST by Chris Ricker
Modified: 2008-05-06 11:41 EDT (History)
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Description Chris Ricker 2006-03-28 10:50:42 EST
in groups view, pirut currently doesn't show mandatory packages

This is confusing - for example, let's say I want to install an ftp server. I go
to Servers, then enable "FTP Servers". There's no indication displayed anywhere
that I'm getting vsftpd automatically, so I'm likely going to go ahead and
install proftpd or pureftpd under optional packages because it looks like I'm
not getting anything otherwise

Better design, I think, would be something like changing "Optional Packages" to
say something like "Detailed View". When you select "Detailed View", it shows
you the mandatory packages (with no option to deselect) and then below them the
optional packages, with the option to select or not as you see fit
Comment 1 Jeremy Katz 2006-04-12 13:50:35 EDT
So, I continue to go back and forth about this.  You've covered one side of the

The other side is that showing the mandatory packages won't necessarily show the
full view.  eg, it doesn't do dependency resolution so you won't realize when
packages are pulled in by deps.  But maybe the answer there is that if it's an
"interesting" package, it should be included as mandatory even if it is going to
get pulled in by a dep anyway.

I can probably be swayed either way.  Maybe it'll just be something that changes
from one to the other each release ;)
Comment 2 Chris Ricker 2006-04-19 09:04:56 EDT
Agreed that showing the mandatory still doesn't give a complete picture, but it
does give a more usable one

Think again about the usage case I gave -- trying to install an ftp server. Do I
care that when it selects vsftpd as mandatory that later when it does dependency
resolution it'll also select logrotate? It's nice to know, but I don't really
care in the same way that I do need to know that if I select the FTP Servers
I've already implicitly selected vsftpd, and therefore don't also need to select

I can't really think of a usage case why anyone would prefer the current
Comment 3 George Beshers 2007-09-18 21:03:59 EDT
Stumbled across this --- need to check it and either fix it or close it.
Comment 4 Bug Zapper 2008-04-03 22:19:27 EDT
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Comment 5 Bug Zapper 2008-05-06 11:40:59 EDT
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