Bug 1893428
| Summary: | netinstall image requirement for using kickstart could be made clearer | ||
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| Product: | [Retired] Fedora Documentation | Reporter: | glaebhoerl |
| Component: | install-guide | Assignee: | Petr Bokoc <pbokoc> |
| Status: | CLOSED RAWHIDE | QA Contact: | Fedora Docs QA <docs-qa> |
| Severity: | low | Docs Contact: | |
| Priority: | unspecified | ||
| Version: | devel | CC: | pbokoc, sjalgaon, vslavik, zach |
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Target Release: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | Unspecified | ||
| OS: | Unspecified | ||
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| Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | If docs needed, set a value | |
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| Last Closed: | 2021-06-21 08:39:31 UTC | Type: | Bug |
| Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
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| oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
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Description
glaebhoerl
2020-10-31 11:04:27 UTC
Hi glaebhoerl, thanks for the report! How about changing the popup itself to tell you what to do? This is there now: > "Kickstart is not supported on live installs. This installation will continue interactively. Use kickstart with Server or IoT images." Maybe let's add this to the text? > " Use kickstart with Server, IoT, or other non-Live images." You can even propose such a change yourself, the place to modify the text is right here: https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/blob/master/data/liveinst/liveinst#L115 Eh, I copied the changed line both times, but never mind, the question stands :) That'd be a definite improvement. I don't think the actual download pages even mention which ones are Live vs. non-Live, though? I guess "ISO" vs. "Installer ISO" is supposed to indicate the difference? But the server page https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/ just says "Standard ISO" and "Netinstall ISO", and from your comment I'm inferring that presumably *both* of these would work? Is there any image other than Workstation that /is/ Live? If not, perhaps it'd be clearer to just call out that one in particular as the one to avoid. (Of course, this runs the risk of becoming inaccurate with time if the situation evolves.) Especially if things are more complex than that, it does seem like there ought to be a list/table of which images are of which nature *somewhere*, whether in the error popup (probably not the right place), the docs, or the download pages. I also still believe it'd be helpful to clarify the concept of "boot media" on the "Automating the Installation with Kickstart" page as well, which could've saved me from going down the wrong path in the first place. (The page gives the appearance of being *the* page for information about kickstart installations; when e.g. found via google, it is completely non-obvious that the "Preparing for Installation" page from the previous group in the docs should also be consulted.) Sorry glaebhoerl, this fell through the cracks in my life. But I did find it again, so it's not hopeless! > just says "Standard ISO" and "Netinstall ISO", and from your comment I'm inferring that presumably *both* of these would work? Yes. > Is there any image other than Workstation that /is/ Live? Certainly. The other desktop spins do this, see https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/nightlies.html and search for live. Anyone building a distro from Fedora can have that. The general pattern is: Kickstart is supported if an image boots straight to installer, with no pretty desktop to try out. Technically, the actual difference is if Anaconda is started with the "liveinst" script. That script will give you the error message and discard the kickstart parameter. Given that multiple editions / spins / variants / whatever can make live media that show this message, I'm no longer sure if changing the message is the best idea. But I've opened a PR just in case, https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/3387 Petr, can you please check if anything can be done about this? I'm thinking the numbered list here could add also that the media is not Live: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f34/install-guide/advanced/Kickstart_Installations/ I am not sure how far back you want to edit the docs, but I'd go for f34 and f33 too. Hi! Sure, no problem. I added a mention to point 2 of the numbered list in the link from c#5 on branches master (Rawhide), f34, and f33. ...I think this can be closed? Fine by me. Thanks for making the changes! Anaconda PR with better message merged, docs done for a few weeks already... I think we're done! |