Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 203993
change openmotif to be parallel installable with lesstif
Last modified: 2007-11-30 17:11:41 EST
Description of problem: This is not really a bug report, but a place for the coordination around openmotif/lesstif packaging to have parallel installable packages to ease migration and also to help those who prefer one or the other implementation to chose. All that is following the switch to lesstif in fedora to cope with openmotif not having an OSI compatible licence (and even this issue set apart this would be a good thing to be able to choose one). lesstif package is proposed in Bug #203274. the -devel packages will conflict. There could be a virtual provide, like motif-devel describing the motif API provided by the -devel package, which would be, for lesstif at version 2.1, and for openmotif at 2.3. the package containing the libraries shouldn't conflict. Currently the openmotif and lesstif libs have different sonames and different names, so the library names are not an issue. What could conflict is mwm, which is in lesstif-mwm in the proposed lesstif package. There is also uil, it is proposed to be in lesstif-devel. And xmbind could also conflict, and is more worrisome to me since it should logically be in the main package, with the libraries. To avoid the xmbind conflict there are 2 possible solutions: * move xmbind to a separate package * rename programs, scripts and man pages that could conflict in such a way that they don't conflict (like openmotif-xmbind or lesstif-xmbind). Are you ready to split openmotif according to a scheme compatible with what I propose above to avoid conflicts? What would seem better for you to avoid the xmbind conflict? As a side note, lesstif and openmotif provide libraries which may have the same soname and name but be ABI incompatible. So even if the packages may be parallel installable it would be safer for packaes built against one or the other to require the right one and not rely on the soname found automatically by rpm. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: Expected results: Additional info:
In the end I split a lesstif-clients with uil and xmbind out of lesstif. So there is lesstif lesstif-devel lesstif-clients uil and xmbind lesstif-mwm
Thomas, please be so kind as to justify your closing (without any comment) of this bug/enhancement-request as NOTABUG.
Rex, as you know, there will be no OpenMotif package anymore. Therefore there is absolutely no need to change anything in this package. No package, no bug.
I am still hoping that openmotif will still be there for FC6 such that there is more than 1 month for transition and testing. Moreover it would have been nice to leave an openmotif package that play as nice as possible with lesstif given that it is more than likely that some users will need openmotif for longer time.
> I am still hoping that openmotif will still be there for FC6 To quote Wayne's World: "live in the now". Aint gonna happen (unless openmotif miraculously changes their licensing *soon*).
That's not very nice for Motif library users. Doing such a change without notice and no transition release to have time to adapt, although it is well known that lesstif has issues openmotif don't have is not very carefull.
> That's not very nice for Motif library users. Please take further discussion to the fab list. bugzilla is not the appropriate forum. For background, see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RexDieter/openmotif