Description of problem: Fundamentally, the problem is the removal of OpenMotif from Fedora Core. Come on guys, it's not as sexy as the latest Qt but it is very stable and still widely used in industry because of that! Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): dx-4.4.4-2.fc6 How reproducible: Load a visual program with multiple tabbed pages. Enlarge the Visual Program window to near full screen, then change sizes. Sometimes tabs become a few pixels thick, sometimes labels are shifted off the top, sometimes they are blank. Seems to be size dependent. The fonts on the file widget are broken. Double-clicking on the directory name no longer changes directories. These are almost certainly Lesstif bugs. I can reproduce the tab bug by loading the program /usr/share/dx/samples/programs/ComputeOnData.net from the dx-samples package. Expected results: Tabs stay consistently sized and labelled. File widget consistently changes directories and fonts are reasonable. Additional info: Please put OpenMotif back into Extras and recompile DX against that program. DX as it is currently compiled is broken.
Created attachment 141487 [details] Picture of the tabs almost disappearing.
Created attachment 141488 [details] File selector widget with fonts messed up.
Fundamentally, it's a problem with non-free license of OpenMotif, which is the reason it cannot go back into Extras. I'll try to verify this bug soon and contact both dx and lesstif developers to see what can be done to fix this.
(In reply to comment #2) > Created an attachment (id=141488) [edit] > File selector widget with fonts messed up. > What is messed up in this one? Looks perfectly fine to me...
File selection has the fine-point in the selector, bold in the main window. All used to be the same font. Also the double-click on the directory to change it is unreliable.
(In reply to comment #0) [...] > Load a visual program with multiple tabbed pages. Enlarge the Visual Program > window to near full screen, then change sizes. Sometimes tabs become a few > pixels thick, sometimes labels are shifted off the top, sometimes they are > blank. Seems to be size dependent. Could you elaborate on how to get multiple tabs? Opening the file you mention via Edit Visual Programs yields only one tab. > The fonts on the file widget are broken. I wouldn't call that broken. I think it may be on purpose, but anyway I wouldn't call it a bug. Fonts look nice and readable. Does it happen with other motif apps? > Double-clicking on the directory name no longer changes directories. Works fine here.
(In reply to comment #6) > Opening the file you mention via Edit Visual Programs yields only one tab. I suppose I said multiple tabs since I've not used DX with a single page program for a while. The example breaks for me with the single tab at the top: after doing a couple of resizes I see a problem. To create multiple tabs start at the Visual Program Editor menu bar, select Edit->Page->Create Empty Page. > I wouldn't call that broken. I would because Motif itself has its main market share in things like professional and process control applications. Fonts and appearance matter since the environments tend to be rigidly controlled. Not getting the font one should is, IMHO, broken. > Does it happen with other motif apps? Not that I've seen. I use DDD but that appears to be OK. > Works fine here. It fails intermittently for me. Perhaps that's related to font scalings and correctly identifying the location of the click on the displayed list.
Ok, managed to open a couple of tabs, but they behave consistently and do not change their size when resizing the window. I did, however, experience a freeze of the VPE window and had to kill the whole application.
Sent mail upstream, awaiting response.
Thank you. I'll cast my vote one more time to see Motif back in Fedora somewhere, I've asked for its inclusion at Livna.
That won't help this problem, since OpenDX is in Extras and cannot depend on packages from other repositories. And LessTif is not binary-compatible with OpenMotif AFAIK, so just installing openmotif over lesstif will break things.
Is this bug still present? Hans did a lot of bugfixing in lesstif.
The behaviour I described in comment #8 still happens on F-7/x86_64. $ rpm -q dx lesstif dx-4.4.4-3.fc7 lesstif-0.95.0-20.fc7 I never got any replies from OpenDX developers.
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As I said in comment #13, this still happens on F-7, so I'm bumping the release to 7 to avoid dropping this issue. I can't fix it myself, though.
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There is no erason why this should have been fixed, so setting to rawhide.
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$ rpm -q dx lesstif dx-4.4.4-10.fc12.x86_64 lesstif-0.95.2-1.fc12.x86_64 - As of current "rawhide", it seems to be possible at least to change directories successfully by double-clicking in the file selector widget. - Tabs are still distorted as shown in comment #2. - Entries in the file selector are partially bold; this is not the case for 'ddd' though. Looks like bad internal defaults of 'dx'.
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Still not fixed, bumping to rawhide. Upstream is non-responsive, so if anyone has a patch I can try, they are very welcome to attach it or send it to me.
Lesstif is dead. The only valid solution that I see at the moment is to move package 'dx' to rpmfusion and to build it there against Open Motif (2.3.2). With the official Motif implementation, none of the various issues reported in the Red Hat Bugzilla are present. I have locally compiled all Motif applications on my system against openmotif-2.3.2-1.fc12.x86_64 rebuilt from the RHEL5 source package, and life is much happier now :o)
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(In reply to comment #5) In the case of Open Motif 2.3.2 without any personal customization of Motif resources, the file selection box is using bold fonts everywhere. Lesstif 0.95.2 behaves exactly the same in this respect. I suppose your font resources are not complete because in both cases, my Motif resource settings enforce normal (non-bold) fonts in the file selection box. Switching directories by double-clicking is still flaky as of lesstif-0.95.2-1.fc12. Moreover, tabs in the VPE still get cropped as shown in screen shot https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=141487 whereas they exhibit normal height allowing for readable labels when using Motif.
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