Description of problem:
After booting, the primary sound output device is not present in the mixer and
sound cannot be played. This started happening after the recent kernel update.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Happens about 50% of boots.
Steps to Reproduce:
2. Log in.
3. Depending on what apps are used a message will appear, complaining about
sound output. E.g. 'Error - Amarok : xine was unable to initialize any audio
The mixer only shows up the secondary device: a webcam microphone. The primary
sound card is not present (Sound Blaster Live).
Primary sound card available to apps and present in mixer.
In the 'Soundcard Detection' ('Audio configuration') GUI app, it reports the
correct primary sound device. However the test sound output doesn't work.
Sometimes a reboot will make it come good.
Created attachment 142725 [details]
scsconfig.log after running Soundcard Detection gui tool
Created attachment 142726 [details]
scsrun.log after running Soundcard Detection gui tool
Since the update to kernel-2.6.18-1.2868.fc6 it seems to be working so far (4
out of 4 reboots).
Unfortunately the problem still occurs occasionally even with the latest kernel
(This is a mass-update to all current FC6 kernel bugs in NEW state)
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This problem still occurs in Fedora 8.
Interesting related messages from dmesg:
snd_seq_midi_event: Unknown symbol snd_seq_expand_var_event
usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
cannot find the slot for index 0 (range 0-0), error: -16
EMU10K1_Audigy: probe of 0000:00:0b.0 failed with error -12
Note that these messages only appear for the sessions where this problem occurs.
It is still intermittent, with about 50% probability of failing per boot.
Please post the contents of /etc/modules.conf. There is probably not an entry in
there telling the webcam microphone to use slot 1...
Created attachment 292093 [details]
I assume you mean /etc/modprobe.conf. You are correct, there is no entry
relating to the webcam microphone.
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
Whose responsibility (i.e. which package) is it to add this setting to
Probably none - I would think that the user should configure that, since they
are the only ones that know the configuration details of their hardware.
Consider a scenario with a typical user, someone's grandmother let's say. She
attaches a new webcam to her computer so she can chat with the grandkiddies. She
fires up the computer, logs in and decides to listen to some tunes. Much to her
sorrow, there is no sound output. Where does she go from here?
I think it is unreasonable to expect a typical user to be able to (1) diagnose
the cause of this problem, (2) search the web for a long time to find an obscure
solution, (3) edit /etc/modprobe.conf and hopefully get the options right.
Perhaps there's not a an easy, automatic solution available, but a problem
exists none-the less. Some might even dare to call this lack of functionality a
Now, what is the best way to fix this? Perhaps whatever detects the available
sound devices at boot up could detect which one has the most capabilities
(recording *and* playback, vs recording only) and make this the primary sound
device (a la the modprobe.conf changes mentioned in previous comments). I'm not
intimate with the details of the sound device auto-detection process, i.e.
whether this is done by kudzu or something in the kernel, so I'm not sure to
which component this bug should apply.
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