Bug 2240006 - Fedora 39 Workstation (beta) does not install an email client
Summary: Fedora 39 Workstation (beta) does not install an email client
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Status: CLOSED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: fedora-release
Version: 39
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Linux
unspecified
low
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Assignee: Mohan Boddu
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Blocks: F39FinalBlocker
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2023-09-21 08:59 UTC by Flo
Modified: 2023-09-21 14:59 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2023-09-21 14:59:17 UTC
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Description Flo 2023-09-21 08:59:43 UTC
Installing Fedora 39 Workstation beta results in a Gnome desktop without email client. Either Evolution or Thunderbird should be installed by default.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install Fedora 39
2. type "email" in Gnome search field

Actual Results:  
No email client shown as search result

Expected Results:  
Thunderbird or Evolution to be installed.

Comment 1 Fedora Blocker Bugs Application 2023-09-21 09:06:50 UTC
Proposed as a Blocker and Freeze Exception for 39-final by Fedora user augenauf using the blocker tracking app because:

 Technically, this can't be a release blocker because I couldn't find a criteria that requires an email client to be installed. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria#Required_applications only lists a web browser.

However, Gnome as modern desktop environment should not be shipped without an email client.

Comment 2 Flo 2023-09-21 09:14:35 UTC
This is appears to be a Gnome issue... Gnome 45 simply ships without email client. (https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2023/05/10/gnome-core-apps-update/)

Maybe Fedora should add thunderbird as default.

Comment 3 Fedora Blocker Bugs Application 2023-09-21 12:22:21 UTC
Proposed as a Blocker for 39-final by Fedora user augenauf using the blocker tracking app because:

 There is no criterion to ship workstation with an email client but to make a workstation distro more complete, it should ship an email client.

Comment 4 Stephen Gallagher 2023-09-21 13:17:17 UTC
My opinion (not a member of the Workstation WG): I completely disagree that we need to carry an email client in the default installation. Ten years ago, I might have agreed with you. But nowadays, the vast majority of people rely on web-based email services like GMail, Outlook 365, etc.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to leave a local email client off of the default install, so long as it's easily located through the Software app for those that want it.

Comment 5 Alessio 2023-09-21 13:18:49 UTC
(In reply to Stephen Gallagher from comment #4)
> My opinion (not a member of the Workstation WG): I completely disagree that
> we need to carry an email client in the default installation. Ten years ago,
> I might have agreed with you. But nowadays, the vast majority of people rely
> on web-based email services like GMail, Outlook 365, etc.
> 
> I think it's perfectly reasonable to leave a local email client off of the
> default install, so long as it's easily located through the Software app for
> those that want it.

+1

Comment 6 Adam Williamson 2023-09-21 14:59:17 UTC
This is intentional, and has been the case since Fedora 30. See https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/67 for the discussion.


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