Bug 2240134 - Rebase Thunderbird to 115.*, 102.* is going out of support
Summary: Rebase Thunderbird to 115.*, 102.* is going out of support
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Status: CLOSED ERRATA
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: thunderbird
Version: 38
Hardware: x86_64
OS: Linux
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medium
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Eike Rathke
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2023-09-21 22:49 UTC by Todd
Modified: 2023-10-27 02:17 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

Fixed In Version: thunderbird-115.3.1-1.fc38
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Last Closed: 2023-10-07 01:45:18 UTC
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2023-10-05 16:54 UTC, Todd
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Fedora Pagure fesco issue 3050 0 None None None 2023-10-04 09:59:47 UTC

Description Todd 2023-09-21 22:49:04 UTC
Fedora 38
thunderbird-102.13.0-1.fc38.x86_64

Thunderbird 102 is going out of support in a week.  Please consider upgrading to the current version.

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1821578#c3


Reproducible: Always

Comment 1 Eike Rathke 2023-09-25 20:12:38 UTC
Meanwhile there's thunderbird-102.15.1-1.fc38 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-a7aba7e1b0

Not sure whether we'll do a rebase to 115.* in f38, last time we did that we got angry voices because of doing a rebase in a release without FESCo exception, so it might depend on that.

Comment 2 Eduard Vopicka 2023-09-29 17:21:49 UTC
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https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3050

#3050 Request major version update exception - Thunderbird 115
Closed: Accepted a month ago by zbyszek. Opened 2 months ago by xhorak.

zbyszek commented a month ago
It's been more than two weeks.
APPROVED (+4, 1, 0)

zbyszek commented a month ago
Announced.
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So now? :-)

Comment 3 Andreas M. Kirchwitz 2023-10-02 10:10:38 UTC
I'm just a happy user of Thunderbird, I don't know anything about internal policies. :-)

In July, when the build of thunderbird-115.0.1-1.fc38 (x86_64) first appeared in koji, I made a backup of my Thunderbird profile (just in case things go wrong) and tried the 115 branch just out of curiosity. It's so great. Yes, sure, the GUI looks very different, and at first I was a little bit upset. Users may have to adapt their settings so that they get a proper look & feel for their needs. But truth is, that's done in a couple of minutes and then you're happy.

Regarding technical features, I haven't noticed much of a difference. Works all the same like before, whatever way you may want to look at it, positive or negative. Although the big bump in the version number may suggest differently, it's not really that big of an update. But I'm no expert here, maybe it's all different under the hood and the upgrade was just so smooth that I haven't noticed all the big improvements and changes.

Anyway, to make it short, I wouldn't want to go back, I really like to stay with Thunderbird 115, although now it worries me a little bit that there are no updates since July. However, with Fedora 39 to be released by the end of this month, then I'll have Thunderbird 115 by default. But still would be nice to have official updates for 115 on Fedora 38 until then.

That's all just my opinion. Keep up the good work!

Comment 4 Eike Rathke 2023-10-04 09:59:47 UTC
(In reply to Eduard Vopicka from comment #2)
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3050
> APPROVED (+4, 1, 0)
> Announced.
> So now? :-)
Oh that's nice, seems I missed the outcome. I'll try the rebase.

Comment 5 Fedora Update System 2023-10-04 17:33:19 UTC
FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 38. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92

Comment 6 Fedora Update System 2023-10-05 02:29:25 UTC
FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92 has been pushed to the Fedora 38 testing repository.
Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92`
You can provide feedback for this update here: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information on how to test updates.

Comment 7 Todd 2023-10-05 02:36:04 UTC
$ su root -c "dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92"
Password: 
Brave Browser - Nightly                                                                                 9.3 kB/s | 3.3 kB     00:00    
created by dnf config-manager from https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/x86_64/                18 kB/s | 3.3 kB     00:00    
Fedora 38 - x86_64                                                                                       67 kB/s |  25 kB     00:00    
Fedora 38 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64                                                                4.4 kB/s | 989  B     00:00    
Fedora Modular 38 - x86_64                                                                               53 kB/s |  24 kB     00:00    
Fedora 38 - x86_64 - Updates                                                                             22 kB/s | 7.9 kB     00:00    
Fedora 38 - x86_64 - Updates                                                                            236 kB/s | 576 kB     00:02    
Fedora Modular 38 - x86_64 - Updates                                                                     51 kB/s |  23 kB     00:00    
Fedora 38 - x86_64 - Test Updates                                                                        32 kB/s |  13 kB     00:00    
RPM Fusion for Fedora 38 - Free                                                                          10 kB/s | 3.4 kB     00:00    
RPM Fusion for Fedora 38 - Free - Updates                                                               9.6 kB/s | 3.2 kB     00:00    
virtio-win builds roughly matching what was shipped in latest RHEL                                      4.6 kB/s | 3.0 kB     00:00    
vivaldi                                                                                                  18 kB/s | 3.0 kB     00:00    
No security updates needed, but 89 updates available
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

Comment 8 Todd 2023-10-05 02:37:04 UTC
# dnf upgrade thunderbird --enablerepo=updates-testing
Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:10 ago on Wed 04 Oct 2023 07:34:29 PM PDT.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

Comment 9 Eike Rathke 2023-10-05 15:34:29 UTC
Note that https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92 says
"Updates may require up to 24 hours to propagate to mirrors. If the following command doesn't work, please retry later:"

You tried latest 6 minutes after the push..

Comment 10 Todd 2023-10-05 16:54:15 UTC
Created attachment 1992275 [details]
blank body

Disaster.  See the attachment.  You sould consider pulling this from testing.

Comment 11 Ben Beasley 2023-10-05 17:43:10 UTC
(In reply to Todd from comment #10)
> Created attachment 1992275 [details]
> blank body
> 
> Disaster.  See the attachment.  You sould consider pulling this from testing.

You can add negative karma at https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92.

Iā€™m neither a maintainer of this package nor an expert in all the ways Thunderbird can break, but do you have any idea whether this is related to whether or not you are in a Wayland session or an X11 one, and whether you launch thunderbird or thunderbird-wayland? Any other clues as to what might be happening?

The update seems to work fine for me on a GNOME/Wayland session, using either the Wayland or the non-Wayland launcher.

Comment 12 Andreas M. Kirchwitz 2023-10-05 23:10:21 UTC
thunderbird-115.3.1-1.fc38 (x86_64) works great here, running in a X11 session. However, please note, I've already did my big jump from 102.* to 115.* with a previous build from koji (thunderbird-115.0.1-1). That worked fine, no blank content area after the update. Btw, I have no Add-ons (Extensions) or additional Themes installed.

Because of the significant changes in the GUI, it may help to go to "Customize..." (right-click in most blank areas) and then do "Restore default" for all personalized GUI settings. Especially if there are Add-ons (Extensions) or additional Themes active that do changes to the GUI.

Comment 13 Eduard Vopicka 2023-10-06 14:06:46 UTC
Works well for me in test environment. F38, X11, fvwm3, Provider for Exchange Active Sync, TbSync plus about 15 other plugins. Hope it will appear also in updates repo soon.

Thanks for doing this rebase, it is what I was waiting for...

Comment 14 Fedora Update System 2023-10-07 01:45:18 UTC
FEDORA-2023-1f5f7b9b92 has been pushed to the Fedora 38 stable repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.

Comment 15 Todd 2023-10-07 20:16:24 UTC
Figured out a work around to the blank screen message area on 115.  Start it in safe mode once and then regular mode will work fine

bash -c "LC_TIME=C /usr/bin/thunderbird --safe-mode %u"

Comment 16 Eike Rathke 2023-10-11 10:13:16 UTC
That blank message area may have been what 115.3.2 fixes as
"Thunderbird attempted to load accounts missing server hostname, causing blank 3-pane window"
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/115.3.2/releasenotes/
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1854064

Comment 17 Fedora Update System 2023-10-12 15:02:12 UTC
FEDORA-2023-fa9b5d57d3 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 37. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-fa9b5d57d3

Comment 18 Fedora Update System 2023-10-13 02:57:34 UTC
FEDORA-2023-fa9b5d57d3 has been pushed to the Fedora 37 testing repository.
Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2023-fa9b5d57d3`
You can provide feedback for this update here: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-fa9b5d57d3

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information on how to test updates.

Comment 19 Fedora Update System 2023-10-27 02:17:39 UTC
FEDORA-2023-253212d414 has been pushed to the Fedora 37 testing repository.
Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2023-253212d414`
You can provide feedback for this update here: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-253212d414

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information on how to test updates.


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