Bug 251989 - RFE: Low-level enterprise messaging utility missing
Summary: RFE: Low-level enterprise messaging utility missing
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Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5
Classification: Red Hat
Component: util-linux   
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Version: 5.0
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
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Assignee: Karel Zak
QA Contact: Ben Levenson
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Reported: 2007-08-13 18:31 UTC by John T. Rose
Modified: 2007-11-30 22:07 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2007-08-15 22:05:19 UTC
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Description John T. Rose 2007-08-13 18:31:57 UTC
Description of problem:

While I appreciate that util-linux includes ddate there is a gaping hole in RHEL
support for low-level enterprise messaging support.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Always until I go to the trouble to install this myself.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. install RHEL (any version will do)
2. update system completely
3. try to run low-level enterprise messaging utility
Actual results:

$ cowsay -d exchange server just fell over again
-bash: cowsay: No such file or directory

Expected results:

$ cowsay -d exchange server just fell over again
< exchange server just fell over again >
        \   ^__^
         \  (xx)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
             U  ||----w |
                ||     ||

Additional info:

While I think the usefulness of this is should be obvious to all enterprise
users I can provide further examples of enterprise use cases if that is desired.

Please consider including cowsay in future releases of util-linux.

Comment 1 wes hayutin 2007-08-15 19:01:09 UTC
This is great +1 on getting it included. 

Comment 2 Jon Stanley 2007-08-15 20:07:20 UTC
Add another vote for this one!

Comment 3 Jenny Bramble 2007-08-15 20:14:24 UTC

I can easily see from the original poster's example that this is indeed a vital
utility that no admin should be without.

Comment 4 Karel Zak 2007-08-15 22:05:19 UTC
The cowsay depends on Perl ... no way to include dependence on Perl to basic
system package (e.g. util-linux).

Please, ask http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/ if you still insist on the cowsay.

BTW, we have wall(1), write(1), printf(1) and echo(1)...

Comment 5 John T. Rose 2007-08-15 23:23:48 UTC
Ok, fair point on the dependency on Perl. However, I think you can see from this
example how utilities like wall are so much more effective when combined with

$ cowsay -f flaming-sheep Fire Alarm\! Leave building ASAP\! | wall

Broadcast message from rose (Wed Aug 15 18:04:43 2007):

< Fire Alarm! Leave building ASAP! >
  \            .    .     .   
   \      .  . .     `  ,     
    \    .; .  : .' :  :  : . 
     \   i..`: i` i.i.,i  i . 
      \   `,--.|i |i|ii|ii|i: 
                 ||    ||     

I'll try to get a separate package, thanks Karel.

Comment 6 Tomas Mraz 2007-08-16 08:51:37 UTC
Please reimplement cowsay in C so it can be included in util-linux. I am afraid
that sneaking standalone cowsay package into RHEL won't be as easy.

Comment 7 Jon Stanley 2007-08-18 19:01:33 UTC
See bug 252450 for a bug against distribution that it is not included as a
standalone package, and voice your support for that there.

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