Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 28337
'Server' class installs are virtually meaningless
Last modified: 2007-04-18 12:31:35 EDT
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When I perform a "server" install for Fisher, I would assume that, aside
from data services being installed, they would also be "ready to go" for
configuration & deployment. In Fisher, when I select the "service tasks"
I want, they are installed, and that's it.
When I install Apache, I should be able to have it running after the
reboot, and be able to administer it through the distro's central
administration system (in this case, Linuxconf). Apache configuration
modules are no longer installed in Linuxconf. Same with Samba, I choose
Samba on installation; I expect it to be running, and administrable
through Linuxconf. It isn't running OR configurable through Linuxconf. I
have to set up Samba manually, and don't have access to easy, and central
In fact, NO services are running. What is the point of having a "server"
mode? Although everything is installed, nothing is configured or running,
or configurable (through Linuxconf) for that matter. It sort of kills the
point of "server" installs, doesn't it?
Is the concern security? Isn't the fact that I'm running data services,
and have specifically selected to do so an indication that I will secure
the services MYSELF (preferably through the Linuxconf interface.) What
about the port firewalling during the install? I've already waived the
security features (that I need waived) during the installation, so why
keep those services that I have explicitly requested to be installed
Steps to Reproduce:
Just a suggestion
Passing to our distribution team head to handle the policies nature of this request.
The vast majority of our users are more interested in security on server
installs than out-of-the-box convenience. Run ntsysv when you are done
installing to turn on and off services you need.
And as for the administration components? Where are my service configuration
tools? Do I have to go back to the 'sacred practice' of editing .conf files by
hand? What happened to all the admin tools? They aren't under Linuxconf
anymore, they are also not (all) to be found in the GNOME/System menu.
The new replacement tools for the old Linuxconf modules should ALL be located
in a uniform location (like the GNOME/System menu).