Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 28337
'Server' class installs are virtually meaningless
Last modified: 2007-04-18 12:31:35 EDT
From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) When I perform a "server" install for Fisher, I would assume that, aside from data services being installed, they would also be "ready to go" for configuration & deployment. In Fisher, when I select the "service tasks" I want, they are installed, and that's it. When I install Apache, I should be able to have it running after the reboot, and be able to administer it through the distro's central administration system (in this case, Linuxconf). Apache configuration modules are no longer installed in Linuxconf. Same with Samba, I choose Samba on installation; I expect it to be running, and administrable through Linuxconf. It isn't running OR configurable through Linuxconf. I have to set up Samba manually, and don't have access to easy, and central administration. In fact, NO services are running. What is the point of having a "server" mode? Although everything is installed, nothing is configured or running, or configurable (through Linuxconf) for that matter. It sort of kills the point of "server" installs, doesn't it? Is the concern security? Isn't the fact that I'm running data services, and have specifically selected to do so an indication that I will secure the services MYSELF (preferably through the Linuxconf interface.) What about the port firewalling during the install? I've already waived the security features (that I need waived) during the installation, so why keep those services that I have explicitly requested to be installed remain deactivated? Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: Just a suggestion
Passing to our distribution team head to handle the policies nature of this request.
The vast majority of our users are more interested in security on server installs than out-of-the-box convenience. Run ntsysv when you are done installing to turn on and off services you need.
And as for the administration components? Where are my service configuration tools? Do I have to go back to the 'sacred practice' of editing .conf files by hand? What happened to all the admin tools? They aren't under Linuxconf anymore, they are also not (all) to be found in the GNOME/System menu. The new replacement tools for the old Linuxconf modules should ALL be located in a uniform location (like the GNOME/System menu).