Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 290461
Removing package can disable system for user with "not enough" warning
Last modified: 2008-05-28 15:12:04 EDT
I repeated my own "user mistake" of bug 212703 again, trying to remove packages
that had no obvious use for me. Through strange and unlikely dependency
relationships this also removed packages vitally needed by the user.
While the fix applied to close bug 212703 indeed is a worthy improvement (popup
at apply time notifying users of what dependencies were found) it still doesn't
address the follow-on need - allowing the user to interpret what those
In this case I tried to remove nautilus-cd-burner, as I will not be burning CDs
on this Linux running in a VMware machine. Unfortunately this also removes
gnome-session, throwing you into twm on next restart.
Your average user is going to be SOL after their mistake at removing something
unneeded from the system.
Every time as below.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. start up "Add/Remove software" aka pirut
2. Select "Desktop Environments", "Gnome Desktop Environment", and then
click on "Optional packages"
3. Scroll down to "nautilus-cd-burner - Easy to use CD burning for Gnome"
and uncheck the checkbox to request uninstall
4. Click "Close", and then click "Apply"
5. Click "Continue" to the confirm removal of "nautilus-cd-burner"
6. Click "Continue" to "Dependencies Added" dialog displaying list
"Removing for dependencies" list containing 'gnome-media',
7. Restart session or reboot, then re-diaper self
The desktop has disappeared, offering the user only the twm with xterm, clock,
and firefox windows. No menus, menubars, no pretty buttons to push to get
* general warning that deleting components can have bad results
and have you backed up your system lately?
* warnings plus some (easy) way to lookup what those dependencies
_mean_. Such as bug 227362 mentions.
* specific warning that deleting heartbeat will cause irreversable
As per the discussion in the previous bug 212703, I understand that this seems
an unbounded process, as in "when is it important enough?" to mention.
Perhaps the simplest essential parameter is this - when would removing a
package totally disable the average (Windows?) user from using their system
and/or restoring back to its previous state, given average capabilites to do so.
This is indeed 'merely' a usability problem. One with disastrous consequences
/var/log/yum.log is a lifesaver!
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This isn't going to get changed at this point as pirut is pretty much entirely
EOL'd and only getting critical fixes for older releases. In Fedora 9 and
later, any such concerns can be filed against PackageKit/gnome-packagekit.