Description of problem:
The ssh-agent and a D-Bus session bus aren't intrinsically tied to X sessions,
but we currently wait and let xinit() do the work of starting them, so they're
only available by default while the user is running 'startx'.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Log in at the console.
2. Run "ssh-add -l".
3. Run "dbus-send --session --print-reply=s --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus /
"Could not open a connection to your authentication agent."
"Failed to open connection to session message bus: dbus-launch failed to
autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed."
"The agent has no identities."
A large pile of introspection data.
Created attachment 248641 [details]
patch to make login start up ssh-agent and a session bus
Comment on attachment 248641 [details]
patch to make login start up ssh-agent and a session bus
Hmm, actually the third arguments to AC_ARG_ENABLE are wrong.
Sorry, but this is ugly hack. I really don't want to hardcode any command line
to the login(8).
Cannot we try to found any better solution? PAM (pam_exec), /etc/profile, HAL or
Hmm, the pam_exec is probably useless if you need to set SSH_AUTH_SOCK and
What about to:
- init by /etc/profile.d/dbus-session and /etc/profile.d/ssh-agent
and write PIDs to $HOME/.dbus.<tty> and $HOME/.ssh-agent.<tty>
- deinit by pam_exec /usr/bin/dbus-session-cleanup and
I think it's much better.
Why is ssh-agent / DBus necessary for non-X sessions?
If it is necessary for console sessions, won't it be necessary for ssh sessions
In that case, we could use /bin/fedora-session-bash as a default login shell
(and fedora-session-tcsh for tcsh, etc.). This binary would, when launched as a
login shell, launch all the necessary daemons, run the specified "real" login
shell, an kill the daemons after the shell exits.
exec -l $SHELL -c "$SSH_AGENT $DBUS_LAUNCH /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients"
by a simple
exec -l $SHELL
and let $SHELL take care of all the necessary daemons.
If fedora-session-bash were run as a non-login shell, it would simply exec bash.
This is cleaner than patching each getty/?dm/whatever separately; as an added
benefit, it would unify the X and non-X launch path.
(In reply to comment #3)
> Sorry, but this is ugly hack. I really don't want to hardcode any command line
> to the login(8).
Yeah, probably. There's the big problem that it's sending a signal to a process
from the login process while it's running as root, so problems will arise if the
user causes either of them to exit before the user's session ends. Please don't
use the patch.
> Cannot we try to found any better solution? PAM (pam_exec), /etc/profile, HAL or
Sure. I'm not wedded to the implementation. The scripted methods can get
pretty ugly, but you're right, they're safer. I'm not sure what HAL would do here.
(In reply to comment #5)
> Why is ssh-agent / DBus necessary for non-X sessions?
The use of the agent has no relationship with X -- it can be started from a
shell prompt and used just as easily. The X session script was just a simple
means to make it available for the user's session. I'm not aware of anything
using a D-Bus session bus that doesn't run inside of an X session, but there's
no technical issue that prevents it, either.
> If it is necessary for console sessions, won't it be necessary for ssh sessions
> as well?
OpenSSH already forwards agent connections (that's disabled by default for
security reasons), but it currently doesn't forward D-Bus session bus
connections. That'd probably be useful, though.
> In that case, we could use /bin/fedora-session-bash as a default login shell
> (and fedora-session-tcsh for tcsh, etc.). This binary would, when launched as a
> login shell, launch all the necessary daemons, run the specified "real" login
> shell, an kill the daemons after the shell exits.
> IOW, replace
> exec -l $SHELL -c "$SSH_AGENT $DBUS_LAUNCH /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients"
> by a simple
> exec -l $SHELL
> and let $SHELL take care of all the necessary daemons.
> If fedora-session-bash were run as a non-login shell, it would simply exec bash.
> This is cleaner than patching each getty/?dm/whatever separately; as an added
> benefit, it would unify the X and non-X launch path.
I don't think that'll scale well across networks, which won't have the wrapper
on every workstation, or in /etc/shells.
I'm also trying to avoid running the shell directly under ssh-agent -- because
it's setgid, libc discards $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (see ld.so(8)), and that surprises
people who depend on that.
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