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Bug 37216 - Installation hangs immediately upon 'Initialising PC Cards' (PCMCIA related)
Installation hangs immediately upon 'Initialising PC Cards' (PCMCIA related)
Product: Red Hat Linux
Classification: Retired
Component: kernel-pcmcia-cs (Show other bugs)
i386 Linux
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Assigned To: Dave Jones
Brock Organ
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Reported: 2001-04-23 11:47 EDT by Neil Bird
Modified: 2015-01-04 17:01 EST (History)
2 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2004-10-25 21:54:39 EDT
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Description Neil Bird 2001-04-23 11:47:59 EDT
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Install hangs on the first page to be displayed: 'Initialising PC Cards'.
Switching to screens on F3/4 shows reports about loading pcmcia kernal 
modules (pcmcia_core.o & tcio.o - after "Databook TCIC-2 probe").

However, this is on a straight (Abit BP-6) desktop PC with (AFAIK!) no 

Install works (so far) upon 'export nopcmcia' from CD's LILO.

More info available upon request.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Boot from SeaWolf CD.
2. Select any boot option bar 'rescue' or 'nopcmcia'.
3. Wait.

Actual Results:  Left on initial screen. <Alt-Ctrl-F1/3/4> work, but no 
further result.

Expected Results:  Boot/installtion continues.

Available upon request. See above ref. to pcmcia_core.o/tcic.o.
Comment 1 Brent Fox 2001-04-23 11:52:43 EDT
Bill, is this a problem with kudzu detecting devices that aren't there or is the
Comment 2 Bill Nottingham 2001-04-23 11:57:53 EDT
No. It's a loader bug.
Comment 3 Neil Bird 2001-04-24 04:03:45 EDT
Slight inaccuracies - the message is 'Initialising PC Card Devices', and the
option I work around it with is 'expErt nopcmcia'. ISTRT linux nopcmcia works OK

FWIW, here's my quickly jotted copy of the logging info. - just the last,
seemingly pertinant, bits (sorry - there's a bit of my writing I can't now

Console F3:
* startPcmcia
* pcmcia probe returned: |PCI bridge probe: not found
Intel PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 probe: at 0x240; Unknown TCIC-2 <something> 0x00 found at 0x240,
2 sockets
* need to load tcic
* going to insmod pcmcia_core.o (path is NULL)
* going to insmod tcic.o (path is NULL)

Console F4:
<6> LinuxPCMCIA CardServices 3.1.22
<6> options: [pci] [cardbus]

  I can then chose diff. consoles (<Alt-Ctrl>) but it never goes any further.
Comment 4 Brent Fox 2001-05-02 16:43:05 EDT
Can you boot into the installed system and run '/sbin/probe'?  What happens then?
Comment 5 Neil Bird 2001-05-04 04:11:52 EDT
I found /usr/sbin/probe through the bash prompt *during* installation; it's not
there in the final 7.1 install that I now have. It's output mirrors previously
reported messages:

% /usr/sbin/probe
PCI bridge probe: not found
Intel PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 probe: at 0x240: Unknown TCIC-2 ID 0x00 found at  0x240, 2

Exactly the same as previously reported, in fact, looking back. The bit I
mis-scribbled was "ID".
Comment 6 Brent Fox 2001-05-04 11:08:01 EDT
probe is part of the kernel-pcmcia-cs package.  For some reason, the system
thinks that it has pcmcia devices that aren't there.  Changing component to the

Comment 7 Neil Bird 2001-10-29 07:25:20 EST
Bad news, I'm afraid.

The new 7.2 installation hangs for pretty much the same reason.  However, this 
time it's even worse: the freeze (in the same 'looking for cards' place) 
completely locks the machine (<Alt-Ctrl-F> keys won't swap sessions and a-c-del 
won't reboot).

Booting 'nopcmcia' does the trick again, fortunately.

Does this need to be re-raised on 7.2?
Comment 8 Arjan van de Ven 2001-10-29 07:37:24 EST
I have a BP6 at home and it doesn't show this AT ALL, strangely.
Can you attach the output of lspci ?
And do you have isa cards in the machine ?
Comment 9 Arjan van de Ven 2001-10-29 07:39:03 EST
Also the version of pcmcia-cs that anaconda uses is very old; seems it might
want updating......
Comment 10 Neil Bird 2001-10-29 07:42:50 EST
Will get lspci output when I get home.

I have an ancient ISA network card.  I'll see if the hang occurs with that 
ripped out.
Comment 11 Neil Bird 2001-10-30 03:13:45 EST
Not had chance to try the boot disc without the ISA network card yet.

# /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 07)
00:0d.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 07)
00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: HighPoint Technologies, Inc. HPT366/370
UltraDMA 66/100 IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:13.1 Unknown mass storage controller: HighPoint Technologies, Inc. HPT366/370
UltraDMA 66/100 IDE Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 04)
Comment 12 Neil Bird 2001-11-01 04:27:22 EST
Yep, unplugging the old ISA ethernet card solved it.  I've bozzed a PCI card 
instead and it all works swimmingly now.

Not that that necessarily narrows down the lock up ...
Comment 13 Dave Jones 2004-10-25 21:54:39 EDT
hopefully fixed in current releases, please reopen if reproducable with


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