Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 426137
firefox goes into a deep funk apparently because sound is not available
Last modified: 2008-02-25 06:25:43 EST
Description of problem:
This looks like a side effect of a bug 370821, which make
sound devices not available, but they may be not present for
entirely diffent and legitimate reasons and firefox should
then misbehave in such circumstances.
With firefox in use it may go into a "deep freeze" on some
pages (possibly first asking if it should dump a bug report
through bug-buddy but not directly reacting to an answer).
After a while one gets an alert that a firefox window is
not responding and asking if "force quit" will be ok. That
seems to be the only way out.
Correlating such events in time with logs seems to indicate
that an attempt to load alsa modules was made and that failed.
A bug-buddy report (in a "new, improved" and totally unreadable
and uniformative format) captured after one such incident is
attached. I hope that you can make some head-or-tail from that.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
heard this complaint already few times
this is not mine machine so this is based on a description
given me by a third party and "educated guesses" from a logs content.
A kernel on an affected machine was replaced by 18.104.22.168-85.fc8
so trigger circumstances may disappear.
Created attachment 289918 [details]
bug-buddy generated report after a "forced quit" unfreeze
Apparently an URL which the last time tripped firefox was either
(there is a "Noise Ninja" add at the top of the second page).
With 22.214.171.124-85.fc8 kernel, and sound available, firefox loads that ok.
At this point, we're going to only be taking security fixes and major stability
fixes into this release of Fedora. However, we still want to ensure the bug is
fixed in the next version. We'd appreciate if you could test Firefox 3,
available at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html or now shipping
as the default in Fedora rawhide and provide feedback as to whether it still
exists so we can file a ticket upstream to try to fix it in Firefox 3 before it
> We'd appreciate if you could test Firefox 3
That is not really I can do on a machine it was reported. Please
re-read "Additional info:" section of the original description to
find why. Besides it appears that to trigger the bug one needs
also bug 370821 present. The later was supposedly fixed but apparently
it shows back - at least in some hardware configurations. If you
can find a machine with such deffect then running on it a test version
of Firefox 3 with URLs given in comment #2 is much more I will be
able to accomplish. So far none of F8 running boxes which I can
control lost sound.
Hearsay bugs are not welcomed. Please, ask the true owner of the computer in
question to file bug herself. We are kind and help her (or him) to provide data
Closing as INSUFFICIENT_DATA.
> Hearsay bugs are not welcomed.
Just FYI - there are people, running Linux, who are quite busy with
other things in life than software developement and, does not matter
if you like it or not, will be not bothered with writing reports in
As for this particular case, may I suggest that you reread the information
provided once again, with some modicum of understanding this time,
and reconsider opening this bug? If running tests is beyond your
dignity surely you cannot expect that others will be doing that.
Michal, I totally agree with you, that most people are busy actually using
Fedora and not helping to develop it. That's great! Really, because it looks
like what we are doing is actually useful :-).
I totally understand that such people are not interested in writing bugs in
bugzilla, repeatedly testing half-baked testing versions of packages to help
developers find out where the developers themselves screwed up before.
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what we need from our reporters to be able to fix
the bugs. If you are not able to go through all the pain of helping us to debug
the issue, then we will just for somebody else who will hit the same problem and
who will be able to help.
I have tried couple of times to go through the effort and it was always a lot of
pain on both sides and no reasonable results.
Specifically in your case, the issue seems to be like more kernel-related. I
think that the best way would be to wait until the kernel problem is resolved,
and then if this issue doesn't go away, please, reopen the bug. But be prepared
to provide all necessary information we will need to resolve it.